How fast can ya go LBL?

I average ... for when doing LBL


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I use the most basic method that exists pretty much. Cross, corners, F2L, orient LL edges, permute LL edges, orient LL corners, permute LL corners. :P But I still usually average around 40 seconds. I prefer to practice big cubes then 3x3, because I feel I have a better chance at getting good at those. ;)
 
Well how about this, most beginner method I know, pair up cross pieces to opposite center and insert one at a time, do corners with RUR'U' repeated until solved, middle edges normally, and then four alg LL (FRUR'U'F', sune, A perm, U perm). Of course this is significantly less efficient than the method that I teach to beginners, I'd like to see anyone get sub-20 with this, it's probably 150+ moves :P

Avg5 with this: 37.42 35.19 38.02 (31.90) (40.84) = 36.88, I even skipped EP on the 2nd and 4th solves XD
 
Well how about this, most beginner method I know, pair up cross pieces to opposite center and insert one at a time, do corners with RUR'U' repeated until solved, middle edges normally, and then four alg LL (FRUR'U'F', sune, A perm, U perm). Of course this is significantly less efficient than the method that I teach to beginners, I'd like to see anyone get sub-20 with this, it's probably 150+ moves :P

Avg5 with this: 37.42 35.19 38.02 (31.90) (40.84) = 36.88, I even skipped EP on the 2nd and 4th solves XD

Why A perm when you can J perm? I have never seen any beginner's method that permutes corners with the A perm.
 
I average about 45 seconds using the beginners method that I know (cross, first layer, F2L, OLLE (FRUR'U'F' and its inverse), PLLC (L'URU'LUR'), OLLC (only sune and anti sune), PLLE (U perms)).
 
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