How are Erik/Yu/etc so fast? (was: how do they????)

[byu]

On yu nakajimas website he lists all the algorithms for f2l, so I think thats probably a good indication that he uses them.

On Dan Harris's website, there are algorithms for the 7-step beginner method. Is this an indication that he uses a 7-step beginners method?

 

[shelley]

how do erik,yu nakijima and all these other people do their f2l so fast??? do they look ahead? O i forgot! badmephisto too~!

What kind of answer were you looking for here? "No, they don't look ahead, they just have magical powers"? Or "No, they don't look ahead, they learned the Nakajima Method that does the entire F2L in one alg"? What about "No, they don't look ahead, they just correctly guess where all the pieces are"? "They use a secret lube that makes their cube go extra fast"? :rolleyes:

Whether you learn F2L algs or figure out cases intuitively, in the end it seems to be all the same. After you practice enough it all ends up being the same kind of instant recognition and reaction no matter how you started learning. That said, I still prefer intuitive F2L. It's not that hard, and it really increases your understanding as you try to figure things out.

 

[nitrocan]

It's just because they are truly talented and nothing else.

Spoiler

I've heard that they have been secretly practicing in a very secret place though.

 

[Kian]

I think intuitive is far superior to algorithmic when it comes to F2L. You need the adaptive ability of a human brain in order to analyze and prioritize F2L cases. Rather than just applying algs blindly without letting yourself analyze the position, try to lookahead and predict your next case.

I VERY strongly agree with that statement. That said though, I think that there are a couple of tricky cases where I think you would benefit more from finger friendly algorithms than from pure intuition.

In some cases, maybe, but there are very fast cubers that use alg based F2L. Jason Baum, for example.

Of course, intuition plays a role in your f2l if you want to get significantly under say, 20 seconds, but using algs doesn't prohibit you from thinking.

 

[Erik]

For me, I just eat my vegetables but who am I to say that?
Also I tend to eat 500gr of garlic every day, helps to get the competition far away from me :rolleyes:

 

[Kian]

On yu nakajimas website he lists all the algorithms for f2l, so I think thats probably a good indication that he uses them.

On Dan Harris's website, there are algorithms for the 7-step beginner method. Is this an indication that he uses a 7-step beginners method?

no.

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

On yu nakajimas website he lists all the algorithms for f2l, so I think thats probably a good indication that he uses them.

On Dan Harris's website, there are algorithms for the 7-step beginner method. Is this an indication that he uses a 7-step beginners method?

no.

o.O He doesn't? Wow. That's a revelation

Erik, no way I will ever be in the same car as you again. I thought I smelt something when we went to Ron...

 

[JTW2007]

On yu nakajimas website he lists all the algorithms for f2l, so I think thats probably a good indication that he uses them.

On Dan Harris's website, there are algorithms for the 7-step beginner method. Is this an indication that he uses a 7-step beginners method?

no.

o.O He doesn't? Wow. That's a revelation

Dan Harris could probably beat me with the 7-Step Beginner Method.

 

[hehehaha!]

Hey Erik when is your website coming up completely?

 

[jackolanternsoup]

For me, I just eat my vegetables but who am I to say that?
Also I tend to eat 500gr of garlic every day, helps to get the competition far away from me :rolleyes:

I'm inspired. :O

 

[Topper4125]

I could be wrong, but I thought that Badmephisto said on one of his videos something to the effect of "Learn F2L Intuitively, but here's 4 algorithms that are worth learning..." then later "... most algorithms you find are just fancy ways of hiding already placed F2L Pairs, while putting new pairs in their place"

Something to that effect. (GAWD maybe I watched them too many times if I can almost quote them verbatim)

I'm not saying that HE uses them... but for a beginner... it sounds like good advice.

 

[Thieflordz5]

On yu nakajimas website he lists all the algorithms for f2l, so I think thats probably a good indication that he uses them.

But he could have made those using intuition, if he does it the same way every time, it really doesn't matter if it's intuition, it just matters that they were intuition BASED.

 

[04mucklowd]

On yu nakajimas website he lists all the algorithms for f2l, so I think thats probably a good indication that he uses them.

There are no algs on his website...

 

[shelley]

There are no algs on his website...

http://cutex.info/3/
What are these?

 

[ConnorCuber]

There are no algs on his website...

http://cutex.info/3/
What are these?

FAKE, THEY'RE FAKE! THERE ARE NO ALGS!

IT'S ALL LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

 

[mcciff2112]

On yu nakajimas website he lists all the algorithms for f2l, so I think thats probably a good indication that he uses them.

There are no algs on his website...

..........uuhhhh....?

 

[sebastiaan]

can you give me his website

 

[vvtopkar]

Ummm, guys, just because the F2L's are listed on his site doesn't mean he usess stict algorithmic F2L. He's just putting it there as a reference, so if there is someone who needs a more efficient F2L but can't come up with it themselves, they can refer to his site.

 

[Zaxef]

Worst thread ever...

 

[soccerking813]

Actually there is this special drink that they drink before ever competition. It makes them get at least a sub-13 average. They have to save up for the really expensive ones that let you break world records.