Help needed with supercube 5x5x5 last center

[oremoram]

Hi all,

This is my first post in this forum. I come from the spanish community www.rubikaz.com.

I have recently bought a 5x5x5 eastsheen supercube, and I have problems solving the last center. Does anyone know any algs that only permutate or move pieces in one center?. Or any method to solve the last center.

Thank you.

 

[ErikJ]

set up moves plus niklas style 3 cycle.

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

set up moves plus niklas style 3 cycle.

lol dude, that doesn't help him. Maybe explain to him what a niklas 3 cycle is

 

[oremoram]

ErikJ,

Could you please be more precise?. I am not very expert on this, and I don´t know what you mean with "niklas style 3 cycle".

Thank you.

 

[cwdana]

I suggest watching this tutorial by Thrawst:

*he talks about last 2 centers at 6:25

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[MistArts]

He means supercube centers.

 

[cwdana]

Ah. Right then. Never solved one of those.

Just figured it was a similar premise.

Sorry.

 

[tim]

Let's say your center which contains the wrong permutated pieces is on U.

A very easy to follow commutator for a 3-cycle is:
Take out (exactly one!) piece out of the U layer and put it somewhere on the F/R/L/B face. This requires 3 moves. What you do now is: Turn the U layer so that the place where your piece you've just taken out (i call it X) belongs to. Then undo the 3 moves you just did. Now you've solved piece X, but another U layer piece is somewhere around your cube now. Just do the same with this piece and repeat that until your centers are solved.

(both x- and +- centers require 3 moves to take one center out)

 

[oremoram]

Hello, This is the situation in which I have the last center.

I suppose that the 3 moves that you say are:

r u r' to take the pieces apart, but my problem is that if I do this, Y solve this center and scramble the one use for temporary pieces.

Thank you.

 

[MistArts]

Solve the centers during the centers stage.

 

[tim]

For +-centers do:

r' (b' E b) U (b' E' b) U' r

r' and r are setup moves to bring the UR piece to the front layer.

That's the "short" version of the commutator i tried to explain. I think i failed :/.

 

[oremoram]

Sorry, but I don´t understand what you mean with the brackets. How many times do I have to do that move?. And The E means just to move the middle layer?.

Sorry for my questions, but is the first time I see this notation.

Thank you.

 

[tim]

The brackets don't have any special meaning, i just wanted to group the moves together which belongs together.

And yeah, E is the middle layer (between U and D). And E means moving it to the right (at least that's what i mean ).

Lowercase letters like "r" mean turning the slice next to the R slice. At least that's what they should mean in my algorithm.

 

[oremoram]

At the end I have been able to solve it.

What I have done is to use the www.bigcubes.com algs to interchange 2 pieces and to see what happened with the others. And with this, it has been easy to predict which one to interchange .


Thank you very much to everyone.