hellocubers' quest to solve the 3x3 in under 15 seconds with CFOP

[Noob's Cubes]

You don't consider 1-2 seconds that much?

 

[bulkocuber]

You don't consider 1-2 seconds that much?

CN makes basically no difference in your times. I don't even think it's worth it

 

[Noob's Cubes]

I became color neutral and it improved my times. Facts.

 

[Eli Apperson]

I became color neutral and it improved my times. Facts.

There's most likely more to it than that. More likely because you are color neutral you are more aware of your cross solutions. CN on it's own will not make you 1-2 seconds faster unless your cross is already really slow.

 

[Timona]

You don't consider 1-2 seconds that much?

you average 15 seconds, you average 17 seconds, you average 19 seconds. They don't mean anything. It's all bragging rights
At higher levels, yes, 1-2 seconds mean something.
At lower levels, it's nothing, just bragging rights

 

[Timona]

I agree that the things that you mentioned are more important but the longer you go solving on white (or any color), the harder it is to become color neutral.

Nope, you just need dedication and consistent practice.

 

[Imsoosm]

Asher Kim-Magierek is a white only solver, and he's pretty fast, and Max Siauw is white/yellow.
I think dual CN should be worth because sometimes you have bad white cross solutions but full CN not really.

 

[Anthonycube]

CN is definitely worth it when you can plan cross+1

 

[Anthonycube]

I became CN when I averaged 30-45 ish seconds and it took almost no effort because I wasn't that used to White anyway. If anybody wants to be CN. The best time to do it is now

 

[bulkocuber]

CN is definitely worth it when you can plan cross+1

LOL

But yeah CN makes cross+1 easier, but you have to decide your cross colour first.
However, CN's advantages rely exclusively on the inspection and thus the first part of the solve. Look-ahead will be slightly worse than single colour/dual CN. Also, remember that the 2019 3x3 world champion was a white cross solver and Tymon uses dual colour neutrality unless he finds a really easy cross on the other colours.

 

[hellocubers]

PB single again!! (recon coming again)
Generated By csTimer on 2022-08-28
single: 10.73

Time List:
1. 10.73 U2 B' D' R2 U2 F2 U' R2 U' L2 D F2 L2 R' U2 B' R' U B2 F2

 

[hellocubers]

PB single again!! (recon coming again)
Generated By csTimer on 2022-08-28
single: 10.73

Time List:
1. 10.73 U2 B' D' R2 U2 F2 U' R2 U' L2 D F2 L2 R' U2 B' R' U B2 F2

recon:

z2 y'//inspect
R' F D2 R D2//cross
U F' L F L'//1st pair
y U' L' U L U' L' U L//2nd pair
U R U' R'//3rd pair
y R' F R F' R U R'//4th pair
U R' F R U R' U' F' U R//OLL
M2' U' M2' U2' M2' U' M2'//PLL
//46 STM, 4.29 TPS

would've got sub-10 if i didn't lock up on that 4th pair

 

[hellocubers]

i got a sub-20 ao1000 les goooo

 

[hellocubers]

Judging by my ao1000, I think I'm already sub-20.

 

[hellocubers]

sub-17 ao12 boiii

Generated By csTimer on 2022-09-04
avg of 12: 16.61

Time List:
1. (13.52) R' D2 B D2 F R2 D2 L2 D2 F2 D2 F U2 L' U F L2 R2 B2 L2 D'
2. 21.60 U B' U2 F L2 B U2 B R2 D2 B L2 U2 L F L2 U' B L2 D U2
3. 15.34 L F2 U2 F2 L' U2 R U2 F2 L2 U2 L B L' R2 B D B2 R' F2 U'
4. 14.02 B D2 R2 U2 F D2 B D2 R2 F' L2 U B' L' D R F2 U L2 R2 F2
5. 17.95 D2 R' B2 D2 F2 D2 L' U2 B2 R' D2 L' B D2 R' U' L U B2 D2
6. 16.37 B' D2 F2 D' R2 D B2 R2 B2 U2 B2 D2 R2 B' R' U F2 D L2 B L'
7. 15.90 D F' U F' D2 L2 U' R F2 D2 R D2 L' D2 L B D'
8. 15.67 F' R U' B D2 R2 D2 L2 B2 R2 B U2 B' U' R F2 U R D' R2
9. 17.81 L' U2 D B R2 D' R' U2 L2 B L2 U2 F' L2 F' U2 F R2 F' R' D'
10. 16.09 R D' L2 B2 F2 R' F2 L' U2 L' F2 R2 U2 F D B' R B L R2
11. (22.97) F' D' R' U2 F' D2 B D U2 R2 F' L2 D2 F' D2 R2 D2 B U'
12. 15.39 D' B L B2 F2 D' U' R2 F2 U' L2 R2 F2 U' L B L' F' L D' L

 

[hellocubers]

PB ao5 les goo

Generated By csTimer on 2022-09-05
avg of 5: 15.12

Time List:
1. 16.92 U2 B2 D2 F2 R B2 L R U2 L' F2 R' U R B2 F' U B' L B2 F
2. (13.40) R' U' L B' U' B' U2 L' R2 U2 B' U2 R2 L2 B2 R2 F D2 R'
3. 13.44 B2 R D2 F2 B2 U' L2 F D F L2 B2 D2 F R2 D2 L2 F2 L2 B R2
4. (17.98) D' L2 D R2 U L2 F2 L2 R2 D' B' R F D' U2 L R' U' L R'
5. 15.00 D' F R2 B' R2 F2 U2 F' D2 L2 F U2 R' D' U R D' F' R F

 

[hellocubers]

Well, it's been a long time since i have posted here. Now, My goal is to get sub-15, if I can remember how to change the thread title..

 

[Davian]

To change the title, press edit at the top right under your title

 

[hellocubers]

I reseted my browsing cache and forgot to export my cstimer times

will be starting on a clean slate now

 

[hellocubers]

this could've been my PB but i +2 it (actual time: 12.27)