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DNF_Cuber said:
you hand out a lot of advice for someone who is not even sub 30. I recommend learning F2L first.
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it doesnt really matter either way i guess, you could learn f2l and then 4LLL, or the other way. And what do you mean I hand out alot of advice??? These are the basics everyone who is learning CFOP should learn first. I learned this advice and used it when I was sub 50.
 
Nir1213 said:
it doesnt really matter either way i guess, you could learn f2l and then 4LLL, or the other way. And what do you mean I hand out alot of advice??? These are the basics everyone who is learning CFOP should learn first. I learned this advice and used it when I was sub 50.
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You have advised people not to learn ZBLL until sub 8, and you have no experience there.
 
DNF_Cuber said:
I am confused, but I think you just tell people things you have not experienced nor are you qualified to answer.
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i know i didnt know how to say it the quote was from one of your posts.

I dont tell people things that i have not experienced all the time though, that isnt true unless you have saw all my over 1000 posts
i think im experienced to say that he should learn 4LLL and then intuitive f2l because i learned it and its the basics to CFOP.


also this is becoming a chat room so lets not post random stuff anymore
 
Alex Davison said:
you're just trying to avoid admitting that you hand out advice without experience, but ok
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ok if you want me to i admit it???
i dont hand out advice without experience all the time, i just told you that i learned f2l and 4LLL so i could advise him to learn that.


ok lets stop posting now

i advice him to learn 4LLL first, its only 10 algs for 2 look oll, and 6 algs for 2 look pll. And then intuitive f2l, it might seem slow at first, but then you get faster, just needs practice!
 
Also wtf are you doing @Nir1213 , @Alex Davison and @DNF_Cuber
Nir gives decent advice, Alex jumps in talking about how they’re sub 18 with LBL, which is kinda unrelated to the original topic, except for Nir saying it’s hard to get sub 30 with LBL. I’m pretty sure what he means is that most people learn an advanced method early on, which is easier to achieve sub 30 with, but sticking with LBL to get to sub 30 is pretty hard.
Also Alex you’re sub 18 with LBL not because you’ve been practising LBL from the beginning, but because you’re faster with CFOP and that transfers over to LBL techniques, so really kind of weird.
Then Nir gives advice for OP (maybe in kinda a bossy way) then DNF jumps in and says Nir’s not really qualified to be talking about this, and OP should learn F2L first. Does it really matter? 4LLL and F2L or F2L and 4LLL...
DNF brings up stuff from a different thread about Nir giving questionable advice to support his point. But that’s in the past, and also I’m pretty sure the advice he’s giving now (as he’s mentioned several times) is sound, and basic advice anyone who is semi experienced with CFOP can give to someone learning CFOP?
Then Nir says this is getting off topic/becoming a chat room and Alex says he’s trying to avoid the point? And everyone just eye rolling each other?

This is messed up
 
Nir gives decent advice, Alex jumps in talking about how they’re sub 18 with LBL, which is kinda unrelated to the original topic, except for Nir saying it’s hard to get sub 30 with LBL. I’m pretty sure what he means is that most people learn an advanced method early on, which is easier to achieve sub 30 with, but sticking with LBL to get to sub 30 is pretty hard.
Also Alex you’re sub 18 with LBL not because you’ve been practising LBL from the beginning, but because you’re faster with CFOP and that transfers over to LBL techniques, so really kind of weird.
Then Nir gives advice for OP (maybe in kinda a bossy way) then DNF jumps in and says Nir’s not really qualified to be talking about this, and OP should learn F2L first. Does it really matter? 4LLL and F2L or F2L and 4LLL...
DNF brings up stuff from a different thread about Nir giving questionable advice to support his point. But that’s in the past, and also I’m pretty sure the advice he’s giving now (as he’s mentioned several times) is sound, and basic advice anyone who is semi experienced with CFOP can give to someone learning CFOP?
Then Nir says this is getting off topic/becoming a chat room and Alex says he’s trying to avoid the point? And everyone just eye rolling each other?

thank you so much for pointing this out! Sorry if i was being bossy though..

PetrusQuber said:
Steps in CFOP, F2L is First Two Layers, which is basically what separates LBL from CFOP, and 4LLL is 4 look last layer, meaning there are 4 steps to completing the last layer (the beginner version). You’ll want to go for 2LLL eventually.
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thanks for replying, it will help him alot on his CFOP journey!
 
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PetrusQuber said:
Also wtf are you doing @Nir1213 , @Alex Davison and @DNF_Cuber
Nir gives decent advice, Alex jumps in talking about how they’re sub 18 with LBL, which is kinda unrelated to the original topic, except for Nir saying it’s hard to get sub 30 with LBL. I’m pretty sure what he means is that most people learn an advanced method early on, which is easier to achieve sub 30 with, but sticking with LBL to get to sub 30 is pretty hard.
Also Alex you’re sub 18 with LBL not because you’ve been practising LBL from the beginning, but because you’re faster with CFOP and that transfers over to LBL techniques, so really kind of weird.
Then Nir gives advice for OP (maybe in kinda a bossy way) then DNF jumps in and says Nir’s not really qualified to be talking about this, and OP should learn F2L first. Does it really matter? 4LLL and F2L or F2L and 4LLL...
DNF brings up stuff from a different thread about Nir giving questionable advice to support his point. But that’s in the past, and also I’m pretty sure the advice he’s giving now (as he’s mentioned several times) is sound, and basic advice anyone who is semi experienced with CFOP can give to someone learning CFOP?
Then Nir says this is getting off topic/becoming a chat room and Alex says he’s trying to avoid the point? And everyone just eye rolling each other?

This is messed up
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I was just giving a second opinion, Nir was qualified to give that advice, I was just pointing out that he wasn't always and things escalated quickly
 
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