Giving up Cubing for Lent

[Zane_C]

What am I giving up for Lent? Nothing, because I don't believe in fairy tales.

Why are people flaming him for this? That's his beliefs and you have yours.

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[Johan444]

Ya Ranzha, anyway, you may have realized you were too late but the issue had already been dealt with .

anyway. Athiests, there is logically no way there can not be a God. And now please allow me some time to gather my rebuttal.

Don't try to defend any religious beliefes with logic. Don't even mention 'God' and 'logic' in the same sentence.

 

[Edward]

Ya Ranzha, anyway, you may have realized you were too late but the issue had already been dealt with .

anyway. Athiests, there is logically no way there can not be a God. And now please allow me some time to gather my rebuttal.

Don't try to defend any religious beliefes with logic. Don't even mention 'God' and 'logic' in the same sentence.

I can't logically or scientifically prove that God exists, but I have 100% faith that he does.


OMG DON'T FLAME ME BRO ;_;

 

[Zane_C]

Ya Ranzha, anyway, you may have realized you were too late but the issue had already been dealt with .

anyway. Athiests, there is logically no way there can not be a God. And now please allow me some time to gather my rebuttal.

Don't try to defend any religious beliefes with logic. Don't even mention 'God' and 'logic' in the same sentence.

I thought that was said pretty well.

EDIT: May I add, "Athiest, there is logically no way there can be a god."

 

[Johan444]

Ya Ranzha, anyway, you may have realized you were too late but the issue had already been dealt with .

anyway. Athiests, there is logically no way there can not be a God. And now please allow me some time to gather my rebuttal.

Don't try to defend any religious beliefes with logic. Don't even mention 'God' and 'logic' in the same sentence.

I can't logically or scientifically prove that God exists, but I have 100% faith that he does.

u r doing it right.

You can believe/have faith or be fully convinced that he/it exists but you can never base it on logic.

 

[ben1996123]

What am I giving up for Lent? Nothing, because I don't believe in fairy tales.

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[blakedacuber]

chocolate and sweets it's going to be hard considering i've only ever completed one lent without cheating i gave up cereal that year which i absolutely love

 

[Jason]

Atheist means you don't believe in anything. I'm not atheist, but I don't believe in any God.

If you don't believe in any god, or I assume, any higher power for that matter then you're an atheist. You should still have morals, etc.

I'm completely unsure what to believe in. Evolution has it's arguments, and they are quite strong, but I don't believe that there was "a big bang". What existed before that? It can't just suddenly appear. Using this logic, the universe has been here for ever, or there was at least something else, before the "big bang".

Trying to apply taste and philosophy onto empirical science doesn't seem to make too much sense to me. Evolution through natural selection and the Big Bang theory are explanations that currently seem to match our observations. Sure, these theories might just be wrong, but one the of basic principles of science is to try to prove your current theories wrong.

The big bang theory and the theory of evolution through natural selection don't simply match observations. That isn't enough for a theory to be scientific. Scientific theories equally have a predictive power. This means you're able to predict a particular event or outcome without having ever observed it yet. (That's why people set up experiments to find Higg's boson). Furthermore it should be as fruitful (as in general) as possible. Thus, being able to predict an eclipse on earth just by looking at patterns in a calendar isn't sufficient either to be science.
Secondly science doesn't really try to prove the current theories are wrong. That's what some science philosophers (like Karl Popper) would like to believe, but real science doesn't work that way (I'm a researcher in semiconductor physics, by the way). The way it works is you use your current model to interpret new observations until the day your model just breaks down (i.e., theory doesn't match observation). that's when you refine you model or come up with something utterly new, as in a paradigm shift (the latter doesn't happen often)


EDIT: Back on topic. I don't think one should wait until lent, the new year or whatever else to reflect on one's beliefs, actions, impact or lifestyle. It should be a continuous process.

 

[Jason]

Atheist means you don't believe in anything. I'm not atheist, but I don't believe in any God. I'm completely unsure what to believe in. Evolution has it's arguments, and they are quite strong, but I don't believe that there was "a big bang" . What existed before that? It can't just suddenly appear. Using this logic, the universe has been here for ever, or there was at least something else, before the "big bang".

What's that based on? Or is is just some personal belief? As to what there was before the big bang, well, if you accept the big bang theory, what happened before is just metaphysics. You might have scientists speculating about what might have happened before, but science cannot answer that. Science deals with the observable, i.e. the universe. Strictly speaking, what happened before the big bang, just as what there is inside a black hole, isn't part of our universe, and hence is only open to speculation.

 

[Muesli]

Secondly science doesn't really try to prove the current theories are wrong. That's what some science philosophers (like Karl Popper) would like to believe, but real science doesn't work that way (I'm a researcher in semiconductor physics, by the way). The way it works is you use your current model to interpret new observations until the day your model just breaks down (i.e., theory doesn't match observation). that's when you refine you model or come up with something utterly new, as in a paradigm shift (the latter doesn't happen often)

Theory means educated guess. Science doesn't actively try to disprove theories, it finds a better theory to take it's place.

 

[dannyz0r]

That faith chart is amazing.

 

[qqwref]

Theory means educated guess. Science doesn't actively try to disprove theories, it finds a better theory to take it's place.

In science, a theory is "an analytic structure designed to explain a set of empirical observations". It's not a guess as much as the best known explanation for what we have observed. Only when we find a bunch of observations that don't conform to the theory is it necessary to search for a better one.

 

[Weston]

Theory means educated guess. Science doesn't actively try to disprove theories, it finds a better theory to take it's place.

You're confusing a theory with a hypothesis. What ive been taught and what ive read is that a theory is something that has already been considered to be proven and is backed up with sufficient evidence to be considered a scientific fact.

 

[Muesli]

You're confusing educated guess with educated thought.

 

[Weston]

You're confusing educated guess with educated thought.

Well whats the difference?
A theory is by no means a guess though.

 

[MichaelP.]

Quote from this hilarious video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO9IPoAdct8
WARNING: Inappropriate talk starting at about 2:13 when he says "Let me paint you a little picture."

Quote:
"I often debate evolutionists because I believe that they narrow mindedly and dogmatically except evolution without questioning it. I really don't care how god did what he did, I know that he did."

"All text taken directly from online Christian fundamentalist forums." Is in the video description."

 

[dannyz0r]

I love over religious people.

 

[Johan444]

Quote from this hilarious video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO9IPoAdct8
Quote:
"I often debate atheists because I believe that they narrow mindedly and dogmatically except evolution without questioning it. I really don't care how god did what he did, I know that he did."

The guys in the video are obvious trolls, quite successful I must say, getting almost 20.000 replies

(And that quote is wrong, it should be "I often debate evolutionists...")

 

[Logan]

Ya Ranzha, anyway, you may have realized you were too late but the issue had already been dealt with .

anyway. Athiests, there is logically no way there can not be a God. And now please allow me some time to gather my rebuttal.

Don't try to defend any religious beliefes with logic. Don't even mention 'God' and 'logic' in the same sentence.

I can't logically or scientifically prove that God exists, but I have 100% faith that he does.


OMG DON'T FLAME ME BRO ;_;

So if I came into your house at night at threatened to kill you, you wouldn't even flinch, knowing that your God will send you to heaven?

 

[Edward]

Ya Ranzha, anyway, you may have realized you were too late but the issue had already been dealt with .

anyway. Athiests, there is logically no way there can not be a God. And now please allow me some time to gather my rebuttal.

Don't try to defend any religious beliefes with logic. Don't even mention 'God' and 'logic' in the same sentence.

I can't logically or scientifically prove that God exists, but I have 100% faith that he does.


OMG DON'T FLAME ME BRO ;_;

So if I came into your house at night at threatened to kill you, you wouldn't even flinch, knowing that your God will send you to heaven?

Id fight back, then call the 911 guys duh...
But If I was on my deathbed or something, I probably be praying my ass off, making sure I'm right with God.
So, yes I know that my God can send me to heaven, and will if I do things right.
I'm not going to debate this. I hate religious debates. Nothing you say is going to change my opinion, and nothing I say should change yours. Lets just stop.