Forgotten world records

[MarcelP]

I never understood why the WCA choose to include the https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?i=WC1982 tournament though. Clearly WCA-rules were not followed

Yeah, I'd like to have WC1982 removed from the WCA competitions list as well.

Inconsistent or not, I would hate it that this info would be removed. Like the title of this topic it will really be forgotten in time. Treasure ancient cube stuff like this

 

[AvGalen]

Yeah, I'd like to have WC1982 removed from the WCA competitions list as well. It's just inconsistent - there were many competitions in the early 80s, none of which followed the (nonexistent) WCA regulations, but only one of them is in our database. Its existence as an extreme outlier also causes some weird statistical issues, such as having a retired cuber hold the "WR" for over 20 years while others were regularly getting averages below his time (and while better times had been achieved in competitions in the 80s). Although Minh Thai's time is worth keeping track of as a historical item of interest, the inaugural WCA records ought to be the ones set at WC2003.

As a sidenote, it would be very interesting to have some kind of unofficial database with as much information as we can gather on the early competitions. Of course, I'm sure much of the data is lost, so it may never be a complete database. Perhaps we could start this project on the wiki somewhere.

I am fully supporting this idea. Start at WC2003, make a seperate historical list

 

[Sebastien]

I am fully supporting this idea. Start at WC2003, make a seperate historical list

Why would you treat WC2003 differently than WC1982 then? Both are only "WCA recognized" competitions.

 

[AvGalen]

Why would you treat WC2003 differently than WC1982 then? Both are only "WCA recognized" competitions.

I don't know enough about WC2003 to judge about that. It seems most rules and people at WC2003 were the same as the competitions after that. Of course rules have changed often after that, but you have to draw the "similar enough" line somewhere and WC2003 seems like the beginning to me

 

[rybaby]

Why?

Qqwref said it better. Maybe don't recognize those old competitions as official by the wca, but an unofficial database would be interesting. I bet some old schoolers could tell us more (guusrs, varasano, lars, etc.)

 

[Kirjava]

I think inconsistant rules would make old results incomparable. IIRC finland had a head to head format and didn't even time.

 

[AvGalen]

I think inconsistant rules would make old results incomparable. IIRC finland had a head to head format and didn't even time.

aaaaaaaaargh, it is almost as if those organisers didn't anticipate the formation of the WCA and the accompanying online result database! Were those people br**nd**d or something

The old results don't have to be in the same format as the current database. Even a well structured text-document would serve nicely