F2L Tips (no long algs) for Annoying Cases

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I see a lot of videos about special F2L tips and algs, so I wanted to contribute my share of these to the community, ones that I personally think are important and I don't see elsewhere.
I use these in a lot of my solves.

 

[Tom Joad]

I average about 26 seconds and your videos are exactly what I've been looking for, thanks!

 

[Tom Joad]

The case at 56 seconds... what do you do if it needs to be inserted in the diagonally opposite slot?

I currently do RUR' RUR' R to pair them up, which seems inefficient.

 

[mark49152]

Nice video.

At 1:27, I prefer to put the corner at the back and sledgehammer to set up the pair. U L F' L' F.

At 4:40 you can also set up with a sledgehammer. U R' F R F'.

 

[Smiles]

The case at 56 seconds... what do you do if it needs to be inserted in the diagonally opposite slot?

I currently do RUR' RUR' R to pair them up, which seems inefficient.

I'm glad you like the video! It means a lot to me.

Sorry I can't really tell what your alg is trying to say, maybe you're missing some U moves or y rotations in there?

Oh my god. I was about to refer you to the part of the video where I explain how to get it into the diagonally opposite slot...
BUT I FORGOT TO EDIT IT INTO THE VIDEO.

with the edge at Front/Right and the corner right on top of it, with the slot at Back/Left, you can do:
(R U R' U')2 + insert, or
(U R U' R')2 + insert, or
U L2 u L2 u' L2, or
U R' F R F' y + insert

i usually use the 2nd or 3rd one, haven't decided which one i like better.

Nice video.

At 1:27, I prefer to put the corner at the back and sledgehammer to set up the pair. U L F' L' F.

I forgot about that one. I think I prefer the one in the video though, but this is really fast too.

At 4:40 you can also set up with a sledgehammer. U R' F R F'.

That solves a different EO too. I learned that at some point but forgot about it again. I will definitely start using that for edge control.

I was going to put your solutions in the video as annotations and give you credit, but I guess youtube won't let me do annotations and an end screen at the same time, so I'll put it in the description. Thanks for letting me know about these!

 

[Chicken Noodle]

Good stuff. Subscribed.
Also, does anyone know of a nice way to solve the case where the F2L corner and edge are in adjacent slots, and the stickers facing you match? The setup is R U R' L' U' L F' U F.

 

[mark49152]

Good stuff. Subscribed.
Also, does anyone know of a nice way to solve the case where the F2L corner and edge are in adjacent slots, and the stickers facing you match? The setup is R U R' L' U' L F' U F.

I would solve the other pair first

 

[Chicken Noodle]

I would solve the other pair first

And the most helpful reply of the year award goes to ...

 

[sqAree]

But what if the other pair has the exact same case? (just mirrored)

 

[Smiles]

Then DNF

edit:

first of all, you can reverse your setup moves to solve the case?
but if you want another way, i found one.

sledgehammer the edge and then do U' L' U L to pair them
as a bonus, if you do the full insert, it also pairs up the last pair in sqAree's scenario

R' F R F' U' L' U L R U' R'
and then in sqAree's scenario, do y' R U' R' at the end

 

[SenorJuan]

"Does anyone know of a nice way to solve the case where the F2L corner and edge are in adjacent slots, and the stickers facing you match? The setup is R U R' L' U' L F' U F. "
Not exactly 'nice' but I came up with these many years ago..
F' U' F L' U' R U M' x'
F' U' F r' F' R F M'

Macky's Cubefreak site may have some ideas, maybe among the Jeff2l subsection?

 

[mark49152]

Yeah my reply was meant light heartedly, but seriously, I would try to solve the other pair first. We focus a lot on F2L case solutions as if that's all F2L is about, plus lookahead I guess, but there are other skills that are also important, like choosing the best pair, preserving pairs, using open slots, knocking stuck pairs out of slots ahead of time, etc.

If I ended up with my last two pairs stuck as mirrors of the above case, it wouldn't be bad luck, it would be because I screwed up.

 

[Smiles]

If I ended up with my last two pairs stuck as mirrors of the above case, it wouldn't be bad luck, it would be because I screwed up.

You didn't mess up because you can multi slot it
R' F R F' U' L' U L R U' R' y' R U' R'

 

[obelisk477]

Good stuff. Subscribed.
Also, does anyone know of a nice way to solve the case where the F2L corner and edge are in adjacent slots, and the stickers facing you match? The setup is R U R' L' U' L F' U F.

F U' r U r' F2 U' F

EDIT: I genned alot of algs for alot of cases like this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bqKEKg1kIsqcj5fbbX1tyNgdg3ChPSxynMQ2YYbeSks/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Chicken Noodle]

Thanks for all the replies, guys. I'll be sure to check out the spreadsheet, and the multislot is also pretty cool.

Yeah my reply was meant light heartedly, but seriously, I would try to solve the other pair first.

I feel like it might disrupt the flow of the solve if I saw that I got this case, then had to search for another pair to do instead (which is why I wanted an alg). But you're absolutely right that it would be better to just prevent it or choose another pair to track ahead of time, etc.