Extreme WCA average/single ratios

[Dave Campbell]

I like how everyone is ignoring that request to explain how Rowland exactly "cheated" at an official competition.

It has been discussed on the forum already. Tyson asked that we stop. If you want to know, search it. Or a little basic detective work would more than likely lead you to the posts.

 

[goatseforever]

I like how everyone is ignoring that request to explain how Rowland exactly "cheated" at an official competition.

It has been discussed on the forum already. Tyson asked that we stop. If you want to know, search it. Or a little basic detective work would more than likely lead you to the posts.

Sorry I don't keep up with these forums, but yea I just found the thread. Quite an amusing read, though, to watch the cubing community collectively gang up on some kid who clearly has problems.

EDIT: Finished the thread, it doesn't explain how he faked a 13 second solve in front of a judge. Maybe I was looking at the wrong thread. But whatever, my care cup ran dry.

 

[Kirjava]

Problems?

EDIT;

EDIT: Finished the thread, it doesn't explain how he faked a 13 second solve in front of a judge. Maybe I was looking at the wrong thread. But whatever, my care cup ran dry.

1/10

 

[dunpeal2064]

Problems?

Cheating problems >.>

 

[RyanO]

I like how everyone is ignoring that request to explain how Rowland exactly "cheated" at an official competition.

It has been discussed on the forum already. Tyson asked that we stop. If you want to know, search it. Or a little basic detective work would more than likely lead you to the posts.

Sorry I don't keep up with these forums, but yea I just found the thread. Quite an amusing read, though, to watch the cubing community collectively gang up on some kid who clearly has problems.

EDIT: Finished the thread, it doesn't explain how he faked a 13 second solve in front of a judge. Maybe I was looking at the wrong thread. But whatever, my care cup ran dry.

Either you read the wrong thread or you didn't read it closely at all. It clearly explains our best guess at how he cheated. Baltimore Spring 2010.

Just check out his videos on youtube if you want some more insight into his character. Having a disability doesn't mean you don't have to play by the same rules as other people. I imagine Shane would have a good deal of trouble getting a 13 second solve with an F2L skip.

 

[goatseforever]

I like how everyone is ignoring that request to explain how Rowland exactly "cheated" at an official competition.

It has been discussed on the forum already. Tyson asked that we stop. If you want to know, search it. Or a little basic detective work would more than likely lead you to the posts.

Sorry I don't keep up with these forums, but yea I just found the thread. Quite an amusing read, though, to watch the cubing community collectively gang up on some kid who clearly has problems.

EDIT: Finished the thread, it doesn't explain how he faked a 13 second solve in front of a judge. Maybe I was looking at the wrong thread. But whatever, my care cup ran dry.

Either you read the wrong thread or you didn't read it closely at all. It clearly explains our best guess at how he cheated. Baltimore Spring 2010.

Just check out his videos on youtube if you want some more insight into his character. Having a disability doesn't mean you don't have to play by the same rules as other people. I imagine Shane would have a good deal of trouble getting a 13 second solve with an F2L skip.

Oh no I'm not arguing with that; I'm sure I read the wrong thread. The one I went through was just a bunch of people ripping on him for making fake videos. Anyway I don't care anymore, I was just initially interested because I didn't know who he was and why people would claim he faked a 13 second solve.

 

[Carrot]

Top 3 highest average/single ratios for any rounds..

1.03	41.60	2005AKKE01	=40.3883
2.69	67.29	2007EPST01	=25.0148
1.41	31.69	2009HAYS01	=22.4751

All top three results is magic


and the lowest average/single

.80	.80	2009WANG13	=1.0000
4:48.06	4:48.11	2007GUIM01	=1.0001
2:25.13	2:25.46	2008ROSS01	=1.0022

1)magic 2)6x6x6 3)Megaminx

 

[Pedro]

and the lowest average/single

.80	.80	2009WANG13	=1.0000
[b][i]4:48.06	4:48.11	2007GUIM01	=1.0001[/i][/b]
2:25.13	2:25.46	2008ROSS01	=1.0022

1)magic 2)6x6x6 3)Megaminx

That's me

I have no idea how I did that...I suck at 6x6, anyway

 

[Carrot]

and the lowest average/single

.80	.80	2009WANG13	=1.0000
[b][i]4:48.06	4:48.11	2007GUIM01	=1.0001[/i][/b]
2:25.13	2:25.46	2008ROSS01	=1.0022

1)magic 2)6x6x6 3)Megaminx

That's me

I have no idea how I did that...I suck at 6x6, anyway

it's a damn low ratio

 

[Carson]

An interesting way to present this would be in relation to the WR for single solves and averages for individual puzzles.

\( \frac{Best Single Solve / WR Single Solve}{Best Average / WR Average} \)

 

[Carrot]

An interesting way to present this would be in relation to the WR for single solves and averages for individual puzzles.

\( \frac{Best Single Solve / WR Single Solve}{Best Average / WR Average} \)

you can try it yourself =D it doesn't take that much time to study the WCA data thing

 

[qqwref]

An interesting way to present this would be in relation to the WR for single solves and averages for individual puzzles.

\( \frac{Best Single Solve / WR Single Solve}{Best Average / WR Average} \)

That might be a good idea for comparing different puzzles (although the WR single/avg ratio isn't necessarily indicative of what a normal person would expect). For a given puzzle, of course, it's just the normal ratio multiplied by a constant.


We've seen statistics of the ratio between an average and its best solve; how about between an average and its WORST solve? (3x3 only for start, maybe more later.)

 

[Mike Hughey]

We've seen statistics of the ratio between an average and its best solve; how about between an average and its WORST solve? (3x3 only for start, maybe more later.)

If you include other puzzles, surely this one must be one of the biggest differences, which I remember happening at the Virginia Open 2007 (Magic):

2 Adam Zamora 1.61 2.02 USA 9:59.63 1.79 1.64 2.64 1.61

 

[DavidWoner]

Stop discussing Shane. Tyson has asked us to stop and we should honor that request. All relevant information has already been presented in the Baltimore Competition thread.

 

[qqwref]

We've seen statistics of the ratio between an average and its best solve; how about between an average and its WORST solve? (3x3 only for start, maybe more later.)

If you include other puzzles, surely this one must be one of the biggest differences, which I remember happening at the Virginia Open 2007 (Magic):

2 Adam Zamora 1.61 2.02 USA 9:59.63 1.79 1.64 2.64 1.61

Yeah, I think I remember hearing about that. It's too easy to get a really high bad solve, though (on purpose for instance) - I'm a lot more interested in very low bad solves.

 

[Tim Reynolds]

and the lowest average/single

.80	.80	2009WANG13	=1.0000
[b][i]4:48.06	4:48.11	2007GUIM01	=1.0001[/i][/b]
2:25.13	2:25.46	2008ROSS01	=1.0022

1)magic 2)6x6x6 3)Megaminx

That's me

I have no idea how I did that...I suck at 6x6, anyway

Haha, I saw "GUIM" and thought "guimond". Oops.

 

[Stefan]

and the lowest average/single

.80	.80	2009WANG13	=1.0000
[b][i]4:48.06	4:48.11	2007GUIM01	=1.0001[/i][/b]
2:25.13	2:25.46	2008ROSS01	=1.0022

1)magic 2)6x6x6 3)Megaminx

That's me

I have no idea how I did that...I suck at 6x6, anyway

Haha, I saw "GUIM" and thought "guimond". Oops.

Me, too. Well, actually I thought "GUIMOND?!?!?!?".
Then I looked at the WCA profile page, saw the picture and was like "ah, of course".

 

[Pedro]

and the lowest average/single

.80	.80	2009WANG13	=1.0000
[b][i]4:48.06	4:48.11	2007GUIM01	=1.0001[/i][/b]
2:25.13	2:25.46	2008ROSS01	=1.0022

1)magic 2)6x6x6 3)Megaminx

That's me

I have no idea how I did that...I suck at 6x6, anyway

Haha, I saw "GUIM" and thought "guimond". Oops.

Me, too. Well, actually I thought "GUIMOND?!?!?!?".
Then I looked at the WCA profile page, saw the picture and was like "ah, of course".

Btw, I don't like that picture, and I didn't submit it...
How do I get it out/replace?

 

[miniGOINGS]

Btw, I don't like that picture, and I didn't submit it...
How do I get it out/replace?

Click on your name?

Should I submit a picture...?

 

[Kirjava]

I submitted a pic ages ago. Still not there ;_;