Edge flipping itself in mid solve? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT! :D

[Derrick Eide17]

Yes it actually happened to me tonight during this weekly comp. this is all what happened and what i posted for the weekly comp below.

OH BOY do i got a cubing story for the ages here! okay so, Technically the 2nd solve was a DNF because one edge was flipped but it would be solved otherwise, plus its not my best so who cares. anyway... on the first solve after I popped trust me i made SURE i put them back in then solved it all right and i assembled it the right way so everything was good. Then when i started the 2nd solve i did NOT pop while scrambling either. but then during the solve i felt something weird. it felt like a piece popped out or something but i didnt feel anything in my hand or nothing flew out of the cube so i was just like hmm and kept solving and it felt weird like a peice came out or was gonna come out but i kept going. then after i took the BLD off i checked and saw that there was only ONE FRIGGING EDGE FLIPPED on the cube. which since i fixed the pop and assembled correct and then didnt pop while scrambling could only mean ONE THING. THE EDGE FLIPPED ITSELF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SOLVE!! XD XD XD XD XD XD XD
History right there folks.. history in the making xD what are the chances of this? xD


Crazy? I believe so

 

[Fobo911]

lol, nice. =D

And what are the chances of you totally screwing Chloe Skye's results this week? She might try to regain her last place rank.

 

[Vulosity]

This happened to me last week. I forced a turn on my type A and somehow an edge flipped by itself.

 

[Derrick Eide17]

lol, nice. =D

And what are the chances of you totally screwing Chloe Skye's results this week? She might try to regain her last place rank.

aww damn i forgot
plus its too late now anyway i have to do at LEAST 10, 15 minute solves to take her last place spot

 

[Fobo911]

lol, nice. =D

And what are the chances of you totally screwing Chloe Skye's results this week? She might try to regain her last place rank.

aww damn i forgot
plus its too late now anyway i have to do at LEAST 10, 15 minute solves to take her last place spot

lol, Chloe probably already turned her results in. Who knows what she's doing during her solves. Maybe from reading her random comments, she might be making out with her boyfriend in the middle of solves, for all we know.

 

[siva.shanmukh]

My edge never flipped that way, but corner did get twisted a few times.

 

[Gunnar]

That's wierd!

I've had corners flipped a few times on loose cubes, but never heard of a flipped edge.

 

[AvGalen]

If edges can flip themselves, will the whole puzzle solve itself if I just wait a while?

Seriously, there used to be something in the rules about pieces not being allowed to twist in place on a puzzle. I think that rule was removed because it wasn't enforcable. A corner twist is possible on most cubes (especially DIY and OH-prepared ones), but an edge twist means it is time for:
a) Screwdriver
b) New Cube
c) Better technique / finger tricks

 

[Escher]

that reminds me...

in OH, you are not allowed to use the other hand to touch the cube.

what happens in this case if you get a POP, or you twist one of the corners? do you have to put the cube on the table and put it back one handed or what?
in the case of twisted corner, do you just complete the solve and get a +2 for it?

:confused:

 

[AvGalen]

With OH (and even worse with feet) you are indeed only allowed to solve the pop/twist with that one hand (or even worse, with your feet)

If you end up with 1 edge or 1 corner misoriented the result is DNF (not +2) because it is not clear if you would have solved the cube or not

 

[Littlegupper]

Haha, I do believe you! My corner had flipped twice for me but never an edge

 

[Kian]

yeah, i've never had an edge flip, that's amazing. my corners do misorient themselves sometimes with my very loose type a cube.

 

[Sa967St]

that reminds me...

in OH, you are not allowed to use the other hand to touch the cube.

what happens in this case if you get a POP, or you twist one of the corners? do you have to put the cube on the table and put it back one handed or what?
in the case of twisted corner, do you just complete the solve and get a +2 for it?

:confused:

I had a major pop on an official OH solve and had to put it back together with one hand. I had bad luck and put 1 corner rotated and 1 edge flipped

 

[fanwuq]

lol, nice. =D

And what are the chances of you totally screwing Chloe Skye's results this week? She might try to regain her last place rank.

aww damn i forgot
plus its too late now anyway i have to do at LEAST 10, 15 minute solves to take her last place spot

Crap! You forgot to go over 9000!

Just scramble one cube, start timer on a stopwatch, then just leave it there for 3 hours (best done before you go to bed) .

 

[Derrick Eide17]

lol, nice. =D

And what are the chances of you totally screwing Chloe Skye's results this week? She might try to regain her last place rank.

aww damn i forgot
plus its too late now anyway i have to do at LEAST 10, 15 minute solves to take her last place spot

Crap! You forgot to go over 9000!

Just scramble one cube, start timer on a stopwatch, then just leave it there for 3 hours (best done before you go to bed) .

yepp i know. just wait to this weeks SC and you'll see

 

[Neroflux]

so sunday contests become 'who can beat derrick's before bed timings'?

 

[Howardw]

Once I was solving a type a thrid model diy from cube4you, then throughout the solve I didn't notice anything. But when I got to OLL, 2 of my corners were flipped...

 

[Tortin]

What happens if an edge pops out during the last turn and you stop the timer? The whole cube is solved, but an edge piece is out. Does that count as a +2? The rules said something about centrecaps coming off, but I don't think it said anything about pieces poping.

 

[Sa967St]

What happens if an edge pops out during the last turn and you stop the timer? The whole cube is solved, but an edge piece is out. Does that count as a +2? The rules said something about centrecaps coming off, but I don't think it said anything about pieces poping.

'twould be a DNF, the cube is not solved if a piece pops out of it

 

[Bryan]

10d) All pieces of a puzzle must be fully attached to the puzzle, and in their required positions. Exceptions: see Article 5 Puzzle defects.

5b5) If, after the solve, non functional parts of the puzzle are still defect (like a centre cap of a cube) or not fully rotated (like a 5x5x5 centre piece twisted in its spot), but the puzzle is otherwise unambiguously solved, the puzzle is considered solved. (discretion of the main judge)

5b) If a puzzle defect occurs, the competitor may choose to repair the puzzle and continue the solve or choose to stop the solve.

So 10d says that the puzzle must be completely together, except for some Article 5 things. 5b5 would be the center cap, as long as the puzzle is still unambiguously solved. Now, if you have 4 centers come off, but they're not all in the same slice (so the remaining two caps are opposite), then that's ambiguous, because you can't tell where the caps would go. But if you have 4 caps fall off where the remaining two are adjacent, from that, you can unambiguously determine the color scheme.

The other thing to note is that in 5b, you have two choices. 1) Repaid and continue or 2) Stop. There is no option to keep going and repair later. I had someone try this one time, and I was going to DNF them at the end, but they DNF's anyway, so I just warned them.