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[guusrs]

FMC solution:
scramble: R U2 B2 F U F' L2 F' R2 D2 F L D' R' D U' R U
I took the inverse scramble so: U' R' U D' R D L' F' D2 R2 F L2 F U' F' B2 U2 R'
Premove: B2

start: L D L, oooh everything looks nice now... lets make the block on the back before the block that I focussed on in the first place:
R' F B2 D, so nice everything F2. Now it's possible to finish the F2L minus one pair with U' L and do this in only 10 moves and a premove.
instead I solved all edges:
L L U F U' F' L'. Then the first commutator: L F L' B L F' L' B'. Where some stuff cancels out nicely.
Last 3 corners: B (setup, L F' L' B' L F L' ) B' L' B'. Where the last move skips a move with the premove:
Total:
L D L R' F B2 D F2 L2 U F U' L' B L F' L F' L' B' L F L' B L' B (26)
I'm sure there is something nicer to find and at least the last commutator could've been implemented somewhere in the solution so it would skip some more moves. I didn't try this because I know I always need a lot time to finally get an inverted solution to work on the original scramble...
Yay NR Sorry Guus...

Erik,

It is a splendid solution, You deserve that NR! And you beated Arnaud (who was a NR-holder too)!

I'm not sure If I would have found that 10 moves start. I will found the inverse scramble with pre-move B2
(because on the normal scramble the first move B2 makes extra pairs). But if I would have found L D L as a start.....
....I will use your frame: L.D L R' F B2 D F2 L2 U F U' L' B L F' L' B (18), sticker the 3 corners, solve, rescramble and after 2 minutes find: L U2 L' D L U2 L' D' for inserting at the dot. 5 moves cancel, resulting in 21 moves.
So solve for regular scramble: B' L F L' B' L U F' U' L2 F2 D' B2 F' R U2 L' D' L U2 L2 (21)
I should not skip dutch competitions......
Gus

 

[fanwuq]

FMC solution:
scramble: R U2 B2 F U F' L2 F' R2 D2 F L D' R' D U' R U
I took the inverse scramble so: U' R' U D' R D L' F' D2 R2 F L2 F U' F' B2 U2 R'
Premove: B2

start: L D L, oooh everything looks nice now... lets make the block on the back before the block that I focussed on in the first place:
R' F B2 D, so nice everything F2. Now it's possible to finish the F2L minus one pair with U' L and do this in only 10 moves and a premove.
instead I solved all edges:
L L U F U' F' L'. Then the first commutator: L F L' B L F' L' B'. Where some stuff cancels out nicely.
Last 3 corners: B (setup, L F' L' B' L F L' ) B' L' B'. Where the last move skips a move with the premove:
Total:
L D L R' F B2 D F2 L2 U F U' L' B L F' L F' L' B' L F L' B L' B (26)
I'm sure there is something nicer to find and at least the last commutator could've been implemented somewhere in the solution so it would skip some more moves. I didn't try this because I know I always need a lot time to finally get an inverted solution to work on the original scramble...
Yay NR Sorry Guus...

Erik,

It is a splendid solution, You deserve that NR! And you beated Arnaud (who was a NR-holder too)!

I'm not sure If I would have found that 10 moves start. I will found the inverse scramble with pre-move B2
(because on the normal scramble the first move B2 makes extra pairs). But if I would have found L D L as a start.....
....I will use your frame: L.D L R' F B2 D F2 L2 U F U' L' B L F' L' B (18), sticker the 3 corners, solve, rescramble and after 2 minutes find: L U2 L' D L U2 L' D' for inserting at the dot. 5 moves cancel, resulting in 21 moves.
So solve for regular scramble: B' L F L' B' L U F' U' L2 F2 D' B2 F' R U2 L' D' L U2 L2 (21)
I should not skip dutch competitions......
Gus

I'm beyond amazed. Congrats to Erik for such an efficient solve! Now you are a master of speed and slow cubing!

 

[cubedude7]

Did anyone who was saturday at Dutch Nationals take by accident my rubik's clock?
I forget to take mine with me
Please send me a message if you got it or know who got it.

 

[Erik]

Guus that made me depressed, I thought I needed at least 20 minutes to build-in that commutator somewhere, but it was so obvious!!! I feel stupid now
And I should bring the little numbered stickers next time
Nice find though!

 

[scylla]

- Sander got third because of that with a 9:41 solve?

Did you know I was very surpised but happy with that?!

To make you feel better:

- it was my first official and my 6th (official + unofficial )complete blindfold attempt ever
- I have a succes rate of 50% now (and 100% in tournaments, I think its better to never compete again )
- I lost about 30 seconds to get back in concentration after I rememberd that I was started with the wrong edge at permutation
- I lost about 2 minutes more to analyse what the effect was on my cube.
- It took about 5 seconds to fix it

Is there anyone who has made a picture from my (probably once in a lifetime ) priceceremony ?

 

[jazzthief81]

Is there anyone who has made a picture from my (probably once in a lifetime ) priceceremony ?

Oh Sander, I'm afraid I missed yours I have photos from most top 3 finishers, but the BLD podium seems to be missing.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/larsvandenbergh/sets/72157622814979256/

I think I got distracted for some reason and was too late to snap a picture. Maybe Maria has one?

 

[Mats Valk]

- Mats got a PLL skip in the finals?
- I guess this makes up for his +2? (or vice versa)

not for 2 +2's in one round

 

[Olivér Perge]

- Mats got a PLL skip in the finals?
- I guess this makes up for his +2? (or vice versa)

not for 2 +2's in one round

13.56 would have been your worst time anyway. That +2 didn't affect your average at all, but you are right, that's bad luck.

 

[Ton]

- Mats got a PLL skip in the finals?
- I guess this makes up for his +2? (or vice versa)

not for 2 +2's in one round

This skip was luck, and the 2 +2 is your own doing , in my opinion can be prevented if you would learn what the U move must be before/while starting the PLL

 

[Anthony]

- Mats got a PLL skip in the finals?
- I guess this makes up for his +2? (or vice versa)

not for 2 +2's in one round

This skip was luck, and the 2 +2 is your own doing , in my opinion can be prevented if you would learn what the U move must be before/while starting the PLL

Even if you know what AUF you need after PLL that doesn't mean you won't ever +2. I had a +2 this weekend that did affect my average. I knew I had to do a U move after PLL, but I was rushing to finish and did not turn hard enough so the cube didn't rotate far enough. Bad luck..

 

[Olivér Perge]

I think the +2 rule should be removed at all! Cubers would finally learn how to finish a solve.

 

[mazei]

+2 could also be an accident. I've had plenty of +2s on my 2x2 and 4x4 when I finish, one of the layers would hit the table and turn. Darn physics.

 

[masterofthebass]

I had 2 +2s in the first round at MIT also (on a 10.80 and 9.65) Without them, my average would've been 11.13 instead of 11.94.

 

[Mats Valk]

I think the +2 must change in a penalty wich is different for every event.
Like a +1 voor 2x2 but a +10 for 7x7 or something like that.

 

[joey]

Hehe voor. I like dutch.

 

[Olivér Perge]

I think the +2 must change in a penalty wich is different for every event.
Like a +1 voor 2x2 but a +10 for 7x7 or something like that.

I disagree. I think +2 should be changed to DNF.

 

[Mats Valk]

I think the +2 must change in a penalty wich is different for every event.
Like a +1 voor 2x2 but a +10 for 7x7 or something like that.

I disagree. I think +2 should be changed to DNF.

but than the half of the magic average's will be DNF

 

[Olivér Perge]

I think the +2 must change in a penalty wich is different for every event.
Like a +1 voor 2x2 but a +10 for 7x7 or something like that.

I disagree. I think +2 should be changed to DNF.

but than the half of the magic average's will be DNF

Exactly! We need to learn to solve our puzzles. Especially in competition.

 

[CharlieCooper]

Hehe voor. I like dutch.

Hehe Joey. I like Mats. Slaap lekker.

 

[Bryan]

I think the +2 must change in a penalty wich is different for every event.
Like a +1 voor 2x2 but a +10 for 7x7 or something like that.

I disagree. I think +2 should be changed to DNF.

but than the half of the magic average's will be DNF

No, the magic needs to just have a different definition instead of two tiles. If you're above 45 degrees, DNF.