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Cubing Fundamentals

Kirjava

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I bet it's possible to be sub-15 with just niklas and sune.

EDIT; Holy crap, it is. 12.85, 17.39, 12.74, (20.35), (12.59) = 14.32 avg5 with niklas and sune as the only algs.
 
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Lars Petrus

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There are no cubing pros. There are even less professional trainers.

There's a negative number of professional trainers?

Well, OK, things aren't quite that bad :D What I was thinking was that any trainers are even less professional than the elite cubers themselves, but that's not what I wrote...

The top people in this sport now are pretty much self taught teenagers. If you look at other skill based fields like sports or "the arts", people with that background can occasionally make an impact, but they're at a huge disadvantage against those who have been competently trained from a young age.

I see where you're coming from, but are we that primitive in our sport? Surely we won't get to a point where the 3x3x3 times are 1.xx in competitive scenes.

The usual consensus is that 20% under the current world record is the limit of human capability. This has consistently been proven wrong after a few years. I long ago gave up trying to predict...

We must have some form of fundamentals by now, it's just a question of what they are.

Well, of course there are important things you can learn. But the term "fundamentals" for me belong to much more settled fields. Maybe we just disagree about terminology.
 

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I bet it's possible to be sub-15 with just niklas and sune.

EDIT; Holy crap, it is. 12.85, 17.39, 12.74, (20.35), (12.59) = 14.32 avg5 with niklas and sune as the only algs.

But you're just insane... Did you use Roux, or LBL, with Niklas and Sune?
 

Lars Petrus

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I bet it's possible to be sub-15 with just niklas and sune.

EDIT; Holy crap, it is. 12.85, 17.39, 12.74, (20.35), (12.59) = 14.32 avg5 with niklas and sune as the only algs.

Knowing lots of LL algs only cuts down your move count, probably not by more than 10 moves on average. Or 20 at the very most if you only do Niklas and Sune. That's not much time at full speed.
 

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Yarp. I wanted to see if it was possible so I can cite it the next time someone asks if you need to learn full OLL to be sub20. ^_^
 
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