Competitor requested orientation

[Bob]

The runner, just as the judge physically sitting at the timing station, is also considered another judge, and is subject to the same regulations that all judges are subject to (e.g. he must have competed already, etc.). Runners do take a look at the scrambled cube/scoresheet beforehand (otherwise, how would they know who to give the cube to?).

Everyone receives the same scramble; that is, everyone gets the same arrangement of pieces. The orientation of the cube does not matter because we do not require you to finish the cube in a certain orientation.

(Up until/after) this point, randomness of starting orientation is still the way to go. Whether we specify that as a part of regulations is another debate entirely. If a judge is intentionally aiding a competitor in some way, that's also another debate entirely.

Which regulation states this?

 

[Vincents]

Which regulation states this?

There isn't one. It's up to each organizer what kind of system they want to run (e.g. at Cal Day, we experimented with a system where each judge also acted as a scrambler for their station).

Because they are handling scrambled cubes and results, it makes sense to treat them as judges as well. You could effectively consider each competitor having two judges: one who brings the cube over and checks it, but then switches off with another one who times it. (By the way, the switching of judges while a competitor is going is another point that we are looking at for 2012 Regs, as it is not currently addressed).

 

[Bob]

There isn't one. It's up to each organizer what kind of system they want to run (e.g. at Cal Day, we experimented with a system where each judge also acted as a scrambler for their station).

Because they are handling scrambled cubes and results, it makes sense to treat them as judges as well. You could effectively consider each competitor having two judges: one who brings the cube over and checks it, but then switches off with another one who times it. (By the way, the switching of judges while a competitor is going is another point that we are looking at for 2012 Regs, as it is not currently addressed).

When I use runners, they do not have to look at the cubes. If the cubes are covered, there's no reason why the runner HAS TO have competed already or be in a different group. They probably SHOULD, but I don't deem it necessary.

 

[Vincents]

When I use runners, they do not have to look at the cubes. If the cubes are covered, there's no reason why the runner HAS TO have competed already or be in a different group. They probably SHOULD, but I don't deem it necessary.

That's fine; in that case, to explicitly fulfill the letter of the regulations, the judge at each station will need to quickly inspect the cube prior to inspection. All we basically do is change the responsibilities of the runner and station judge.

 

[Bob]

Yeah...though I don't agree with the regulation that the judge should inspect the cube. What are they looking for? It's not as if they are going to compare the scramble with the scramble document. The only thing they might perhaps notice is that the cube was not scrambled at all, in which they would just bring it back to be scrambled. If runners follow proper protocol (that is, when they bring cubes back to the scrambling table, they bring them back uncovered), then this situation will be avoided.

A2d) When taking the puzzle from the scrambler, the judge does a quick general inspection of thorough scrambling of the puzzle. In case of doubt the judge contacts the scrambler for a detailed check.

This is just silly. How is thorough scrambling defined? But now we're getting off topic.

 

[Vincents]

Yeah...though I don't agree with the regulation that the judge should inspect the cube. What are they looking for? It's not as if they are going to compare the scramble with the scramble document. The only thing they might perhaps notice is that the cube was not scrambled at all, in which they would just bring it back to be scrambled. If runners follow proper protocol (that is, when they bring cubes back to the scrambling table, they bring them back uncovered), then this situation will be avoided.



This is just silly. How is thorough scrambling defined? But now we're getting off topic.

I'm just going to share with you the running doc. But yes, you're basically making sure the cube is scrambled, and that there isn't something horrendously wrong.