Can't get sub-40

youthedog4

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Alright, for the past few weeks I've been getting down my intuitive F2L and 2 look OLL/PLL. I was looking for some advanced tutorials for cross(1 thing that slows me down) and how to get faster, less moves at F2L. I'm beginning to look ahead after my cross. I'm starting to learn full PLL (printed off sheets from badmephisto) and already printed off the full OLL sheets.

Oh, my Diansheng .333 pops A LOT. It recently started popping after my friend lubed it ( don't have jig-a-loo yet ) and during my study hall I was timing myself and I got a 2 layer pop. Then when I got home I tightened it and got less of a pop but was still major. What are the best speedcubes that do not pop much or lock up?

All help appreciated.
 
I was recently stuck at around 40-45 seconds too, now I'm around 30 seconds and I was over 40 just a few weeks ago.

Tips: Practice practice practice (that's the best advice, probably)
Slow down for F2L, since it's intuitive it should be a little easier to insert the pairs from all angles. With practice, you should be able to see a case, do it without looking or stop looking at it towards the end of the insertion, and while you're doing that you should be looking for the next pair.
For 2-look PLL, try to predict which edge PLL you will have while you are doing the corner algorithm, it's pretty easy and that way you won't waste time for recognition.

My first speedcube was old type A. They're really fast and smooth, can cut corners really well but they do pop a little bit, maybe once every 20 solves or so (it might just be my tension, but I don't mind pops that much actually). You can get these at http://cube4you.com or if you want super fast and super cheap shipping, you can get them at http://speedcubeshop.com

Oh yeah and while you're at it, you can get Jig-a-Loo online at http://jigaloo.com and the shipping is free I think. It's only a few dollars.

Good luck!
 
I got from ~40 to ~25 in about a week without even trying. It's just something that will eventually click: F2L will stop being a method, but actually intuitive, you can look ahead, etc. You just need to practice.

For a cube, FII is popular, so is AV. I have an AV and it's great: never pops, doesn't really lock up, fast, though LOUD. Not a cube for quiet classes.
 
Alright, thanks everyone. I'll probably order a AV and FII along with Jig-a-loo. I've been working at my F2L and practicing it at different angles so I don't need so many cube rotations. And, should I practice my F2L for a week or so until I get it down or start with advanced LL?

A 2 layer pop you say?

Top layer was gone and most of the edges from the 2nd.

Can anyone link me to type A, type A V and type F II on popbuying.com/cube4you.com?
 
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Alright, thanks everyone. I'll probably order a AV and FII along with Jig-a-loo. I've been working at my F2L and practicing it at different angles so I don't need so many cube rotations. And, should I practice my F2L for a week or so until I get it down or start with advanced LL?

Sounds like a good choice of equipment.

For practicing, make sure you understand F2L well enough that you're not taking an outrageously long time to do it, then get a 4LLL. Then after that you should work on either 1LPLL or getting good at looking ahead during F2L; you'll see more immediate improvement from the former, but the latter is more important. Just remember: GET GOOD ALGS. You don't want to learn a bad alg only to have to go back and learn a new one later.
 
Alright, thanks everyone. I'll probably order a AV and FII along with Jig-a-loo. I've been working at my F2L and practicing it at different angles so I don't need so many cube rotations. And, should I practice my F2L for a week or so until I get it down or start with advanced LL?

Sounds like a good choice of equipment.

For practicing, make sure you understand F2L well enough that you're not taking an outrageously long time to do it, then get a 4LLL. Then after that you should work on either 1LPLL or getting good at looking ahead during F2L; you'll see more immediate improvement from the former, but the latter is more important. Just remember: GET GOOD ALGS. You don't want to learn a bad alg only to have to go back and learn a new one later.

Thanks, I'll look into different algs for my OLL and PLL.
 
Wow, I was really tired in study hall and I managed to get a lucky 33 with 1look OLL/PLL, followed by a 40.34 and a nl 36.76
 
It's all practice. It took me a couple weeks to get from 45sec down to 37sec. You want to reduce pauses in your f2l, and that'll only come with practice. Eventually, you won't have to look at your current f2l pair while you're inserting it. Also check out some f2l guides for tricky cases.
 


Tips: Practice practice practice (that's the best advice, probably)

You just need to practice.


Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice PracticePracticePractice

It's all practice.

I find this to work pretty well...
 
Haha, I practice all the time, but I really do need a new cube. I'm gonna loosen it a bit and see if I can get a bit faster time.
 
Store boughts almost never pop. They take more time to break in (about 100 times longer) but I have a couple that are really good and I've scrambled some store boughts at comps that were positively buttery.

To improve your F2L slow down and practice turning with no pauses to improve your look ahead. Metronome drills are helpful. If you're still learning 2LLL, that's probably slowing you down, too. Keep at it until you're proficient and try different algs until you find the right ones for your style. Then keep trying different algs, even the best solvers periodically switch algs.
 
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