Bristol Spring 2010

[Toad]

I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.

My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

My mum says I may be able to go on a train, but that just seems too expensive and impractical, so I probably wont end up going...

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this

UK masters organisation was bad

EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.

tl;dr: Charlie is a small part of the reason everyone knows I cheat so I'm making random crap up about my dad, when in reality I haven't even told him about this comp. Also, going to a comp would actually make me prove myself in a controlled environment, and I can't make it so obvious that I cheat at home.

I didn't realise Ben had a second account on which he was more honest...?

 

[Tomarse]

Tbh... Not attempting to ***** or troll... But you just got sat down by Charlie!

 

[Anthony]

My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this

UK masters organisation was bad

EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.

We finally know where you get your arrogance and stupidity from Ben.
I guess it's true what they say, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

 

[Kirjava]

I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.

YAH NOW I RED UR POST I KINDA RECOSIDERED MYSELF

My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete

UR DAD SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY SWITCHED ON GUY, CONSIDERING HE DOESNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SUBJECT HE MANAGED TO FORM A PERFECTLY VALID OPINION SOMEHOW. HOW HAS THIS NOT BEEN INVESTIGATED BEFORE? IMO WE SHOULD GET TEH FBI TO GET THE WCA TO SHOW EVERYONE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO CHEAT BY PRACITSING THE SCRAMBLES BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW ANYONE IN WCA IS UNTRUSTYWORTHY UNLIKE SOMEONE LIKE YOU.

that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

YET AGAIN HE IS SPOT ON WITH HIS EVALUATION BASED ON HIS WIDE ARRAY OF EXPERIENCS WITH COMPETITIONS. YAH AND I AGREE ABOUT CHARLIE COOPER SHE ACTS NICE AND EVERYTHING BUT SOMETHING IS NOT QUITE RIGHT I THINK SHE IS TRYING TO EXPLOIT US>

My mum says I may be able to go on a train, but that just seems too expensive and impractical, so I probably wont end up going...

YOU SHOULD JUST NOT GO AT ALL BECAUSE THE COMPETITION IS SO BAD. WHY WASTE MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT YOU WONT ENJOY. YOUR MUM IS RIGHT THAT METOD OF TRANSPORT IS TOTALLY IMPRACTICAL I HEAR THAT MOST OF THE TIME THAT IT DOESNT EVEN WORK.

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this

UK masters organisation was bad

I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT MYSELF TO BE HONEST BUT I TRUST UR JUDGEMENT AS I RED UR POST AND U SEEM LIKE AN AUTHORITY ON THE SUBJECT>

EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.

I KNOW RIGHT? WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE? WE HAVE TO PAY MONEY TO TRAVEL TOO, YOU KNOW!!!!!!!! THIS ONTO OF IT IS JUST NOT WORTH IT FOR TWO DAYS OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE FUN. IN MY OPINION THE ORIGINASATION STAFF SHOULD HAVE TO PAY ALL THE COSTS FOR EVERYTHING AND FRONT THE BILL FOR IT INSTEAD OF SPREADING TEH COSTS. I MEAN, WHAT DID THEY DO FOR US TO DESERVE THAT? IF THIS MEANS THAT WE CANT HAVE A COMPETITION AT ALL THEN ALL THE BETTER IMO.

 

[ben1996123]

Well, I only say the organisation wasnt that good, because it seemed pretty rushed and everything just seemed to go as fast as possible.

My dad didnt like masters because he said "it just seems to be a competition for the few people who organise it and that no one else is really involved at all". Completely agree.

 

[Muesli]

Well, I only say the organisation wasnt that good, because it seemed pretty rushed and everything just seemed to go as fast as possible.

My dad didnt like masters because he said "it just seems to be a competition for the few people who organise it and that no one else is really involved at all". Completely agree.

Did you compete? Yes? Then the competition was for you aswell.

EDIT: You competed in 6 events at the UK Masters. I really wouldn't complain.

 

[Escher]

Well, I only say the organisation wasnt that good, because it seemed pretty rushed and everything just seemed to go as fast as possible.

Unfortunately yes, that is what happens when you offer as many events as you can.

My dad didnt like masters because he said "it just seems to be a competition for the few people who organise it and that no one else is really involved at all". Completely agree.

I'm not sure if I even really understand this. You create your own involvement. If that means approaching people and starting conversations, or going and assisting with judging or scrambling then you have to do it yourself, nobody is going to hold anybody's hand and make them do anything. I'd have thought the unofficial events would've been enough to get people having some fun and getting involved with things.

 

[ben1996123]

screw this. this is stupid.

im just saying my own opinion.

to anyone who is moaning, just shut up and go find something better to do.

 

[Kirjava]

Well, I only say the organisation wasnt that good, because it seemed pretty rushed and everything just seemed to go as fast as possible.

TOTALLY AGREE, AS MUCH TIME SHOULD BE SPENT AS POSSIBLE ON EVENTS. RUNNING OUT OF TIME ISNT AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE CAN JUST CANCEL EVENTS. NOBODY WANTS TO RUSH, AFTER ALL WE'RE NOT A GROUP KNOWN FOR OUR SPEED LOL.

My dad didnt like masters because he said "it just seems to be a competition for the few people who organise it and that no one else is really involved at all". Completely agree.

SPOT ON AGAIN. PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE COMPETING (APART FROM YOU OF COURSE) WAS ON THE ORGANISATION STAFF. THERE WAS NO WAY TO GET INVOLVED, NO OPPERTUNITY TO SCRAMBLE OR JUDGE - IM PRETTY SURE PEOPLE WERENT ALLOWED TO JUDGE BECAUSE THE ORGANISATIONAL STAFF TOOK CARE OF IT ALL. I ASKED IF I COULD JUDGE AT ONE POINT AND GOT PUNCHED IN THE FACE!!!! THIS IS NOT FAIR. AS FOR BEING INVOLVED YES THEY WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO A SOLVE OF THE RUBIKS CUBE BUT THEY ARNT HAPPY ABOUT IT AND WHEN THEY CALL YOU UP FOR JUDGING ITS LIKE THEYRE ANNOYED AT YOU FOR WASTING THEIR TIME. BASTARDS.

 

[StachuK1992]

But Ben, you were making such cohesive arguments. Why stop now?

 

[Escher]

screw this. this is stupid.

im just saying my own opinion.

to anyone who is moaning, just shut up and go find something better to do.

I think you'll find that the only moaning on here is from you; everybody else is just rightfully defending Charlotte's organising skills and integrity.
This is a public forum, and when you put your opinion out there if it isn't well thought out you're going to get torn apart.

 

[Muesli]

Lol Kirjava.

 

[CharlieCooper]

Well, I only say the organisation wasnt that good, because it seemed pretty rushed and everything just seemed to go as fast as possible.

My dad didnt like masters because he said "it just seems to be a competition for the few people who organise it and that no one else is really involved at all". Completely agree.

Ben, thank you for your lengthy response to my highly thought out reply to your previous post. You certainly addressed every point that I highlighted.

Everything has to go as fast as possible to allow people to compete in every event that they wish to. We can't just go through with no pace at all, there has to be a timetable and structure that we followed. The fact that there are more competitors at the UK Open means that it probably wasn't as "rushed" because you weren't competing in events are frequently. That doesn't mean things are badly organised, if anything it means they are well organised, or would you rather a small break for snacks between each event?

Your father is so well informed. Yes actually the only people that are involved in the organisation of the event ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ORGANISE IT. I'm sorry if that seems a little exclusive, but that's just how it rolls. There is nothing to stop you from chatting to everyone and getting yourself involved, but if you choose to alienate yourself both in person and online, there is not much that I can do to help you. You will notice that the reason that everybody SEEMS to be involved is because we are all FRIENDS and we HELP each other. When I go to competitions abroad I HELP my FRIENDS with their scrambling and judging because that's what we do. We are a community and if you choose to be part of that community you will be involved. I completely disagree with your claim that it's a competition for the organisers, because I specifically included several mystery events at that competition to include those who hadn't competed before. As an example, the Ludlow's who competed there for the first time, competed in these events and if I recall actually thanked me at the end of the competition for that opportunity. Another point to make is that you were only actually there for one of the two days, which makes you even less qualified than before to make such outrageous claims.

The reason your father thinks it's a competition for the organisers is because we are a community that help each other out when necessary. In that respect he is totally correct. If you made an effort to engage positively with the community you may too find yourself in a situation where you could be helping to organise and seemingly part of the "team". Sadly it may be too late for you as you persist in digging this hole deeper.

 

[joey]

My dad didnt like masters because he said "it just seems to be a competition for the few people who organise it and that no one else is really involved at all". Completely agree.

I guess this picture is the organisational team then?

Oh wait no.. that's most people. I guess the smiles meant they didn't enjoy it.

 

[Kirjava]

screw this. this is stupid.

I KNOW HOW COME YOU ARE TEH ONLY ONE WHO IS RIGHT THEY SHOULD ALL LISTEN TO YOU AND SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im just saying my own opinion.

YES AND THEY SHOULDNT SAY THEIR OPINIONS OF YOUR OPINION BECAUSE THAT ISNT FAIR TO YOU BECAUSE YOU MADE THE FIRST OPINION>

to anyone who is moaning, just shut up and go find something better to do.

YES HOW DARE THEY EVEN CHALLENGE YOU ON THIS. LOOK AT THEM! TRYING TO ORGANISE ANOTHER COMPETITION AND NOT A THOUGHT FOR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT. I HAVE NOT SEEN AN APOLOGY YET FROM THE ORGANISATION STAFF ABOUT THIS YES AND THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE CONSIDERING THE AWFUL EXPERIENCE YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH.


WE ARE WAITING FOR AN APOLOGY.

 

[ben1996123]

kirjava: youre just retarded

 

[Olivér Perge]

Well, I only say the organisation wasnt that good, because it seemed pretty rushed and everything just seemed to go as fast as possible.

So, if a competition runs smooth, that means it's bad? Ohh, there is so much to learn!

My dad didnt like masters because he said "it just seems to be a competition for the few people who organise it and that no one else is really involved at all". Completely agree.

First of all, most of the organizers were volunteers, helping Charlie. If by involved you meant in the organization, you could just go to Charlie and ask: Can i help you? If you mean competing then the fact you said is just simply not true.

Secondly, why don't you start organizing your own competition? It's pretty easy, I guess all the cubers from here would gladly compete there and there would be no fee, I guess...

 

[CharlieCooper]

screw this. this is stupid.

im just saying my own opinion.

to anyone who is moaning, just shut up and go find something better to do.

Ben, you are more than welcome to express your opinion but you must accept that in this situation, where you are in the absolute vast minority, your arguments are going to be torn to pieces. This is especially true if you continue to make such misinformed comments. It would also be appreciated if you would actually reply to some of the comments that I had made back to you, because I would really like to understand why on earth you think the way you do.

As Escher said, the only person who is moaning is you. Everyone else was very happy talking about trivial issues such as where to eat dinner on Saturday night, when you stormed in and made poorly written comments about your possible attendence with lashings of insults towards me and others that have helped organise. Do not bite the hand that feeds Ben, otherwise *you* might be the one needing to find something better to do with your time. In case you hadn't noticed, this is a very welcoming community that has become extremely dear to me in recent years. We support each other in and out of competitions, and so when an immature character such as yourself comes along and tries to get in the way of that we understandably become a little agitated. You seem to want to be part of what we have but are doing absolutely everything you can to make it impossible.

 

[ben1996123]

why don't you start organizing your own competition?

well maybe i would if i had somewhere to hold it, knew how to, had enough money, if anyone would bother turning up (doubt it), and if anyone would help me organise it (also doubt it)

 

[StachuK1992]

why don't you start organizing your own competition?

well maybe i would if i had somewhere to hold it, knew how to, had enough money, if anyone would bother turning up (doubt it), and if anyone would help me organise it (also doubt it)

and yet you harp on the small inconveniences that competitions that are *actually* happening come with?