Awkward G-Perm execution help

[freshcuber]

I'm currently working on Full PLL and I'm learning them all off of badmephistos website and I've just made it to the first G-Perm. G(d). The algorithm that I'm using is R U R' y' R2 u' R U' R' U R' u R2. It's easy to memorize but weird to execute and the easiest way that I figured it out without a huge amount of re-grips is to do R U R' just like it was any other trigger and then I do the y' rotation. After this I do a wristy R2 and then the u' followed by a continuation of the wristy R2 so it's just like I'm doing a clockwise R3 but with the u' in it. Then as i execute the U' I move my pointer finger to the corner in the RBD position to do the first R'. This is followed by a regular U turn. Then I continue the R' with a wristy move which left me with u R2 to execute still. This is where I got hung up but after experimentation i figured out that I could do the u by pulling across with my pinky finger on the edge in the back right corner and pulling towards me with my hand. This left my right my thumb on the bottom the the corner in FDR, my pinky is on the right side of the edge directly above it and my middle and ring fingers on top of the corner above that edge. The easiest way to perfom an R2 from there is to rotate my wrist up and around the cube so that the R face gets pulled along and finishing the algorithm.

I know that the explanation I provided is probably very confusing but unfortunately I don't have access to a web cam otherwise I'd just post a video. The algorithm is extremely awkward to execute and at first I had problems stabilizing my cube as I executed the final stage but I've spent a few hours doing it over and over and it's much easier now that its worked into my muscle memory but I'm concerned about the speed of it. I can't find a faster way to do it otherwise I end up re-gripping multiple times and this way I only re-grip twice. Once after the cube rotation and once again when I move the placement of my pointer finger to execute the R' after the U'. If anybody uses this algorithm and can post a video of their execution or explain how they do it if they believe it's easier I'd greatly appreciate it.

If any further clarification of how I execute it is needed I'll do my best to explain it better.

 

[amostay2004]

lol that was one long description of something that happens in 2 seconds
Anyway it sounds like what I'm doing and I suppose what many other people are doing too so it should be fine. Another way you can do the u turn is by pushing the RF edge with your index finger to the left.

Just practise it more and you should get used to it.

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

I do: f R f' R2' u' R U' R' U R' u R2. I think Breandan Vallance does it the same way, so you could look up his PLLs on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxvrsCDCvro

 

[Anonymous]

I think the last part of the alg gives you the most trouble, as everything else you described is pretty standard. Anyway, you can either do what you do, regrip to execute u R2 normally, or do a forward push with your right index finger on FL to do the u, and wrist the R2.

I know this isn't exactly what you wanted to hear, but basically you're performing it right. It's just a matter of getting it faster, which believe me is possible. Just keep practicing.

 

[freshcuber]

Thanks for the advice and I just checked out that vid and he uses the same algorithm I do for that case. but the other Gs have different algs but if that man can do a sub-30 PLL Attack I gotta respect his algs. I'll give them a look thanks. And actually that's exactly what I was hoping to hear. Now that I've learned that wrist placement during the last bit is key to avoiding lock-ups It feels much smoother and and flows semi-decently. I doubt It'll be as fast as say an A-perm but it's good to know I didn't develop some mutant execution method lol

 

[jms_gears1]

am not fridrich user but heres how i do the G perm
RUl' (yU2) r'UR'U'RU'rU2

 

[Joker]

I use the same G perms that Erik uses, heres a vid of his:

Skip to 7:08 for the G perms.

 

[freshcuber]

I watched Eriks vid a few days ago and his finger tricks are so different from the way I've been doing PLL algs. I gave a few of hem a try and they just felt so awkward and I've already learned almost half the algs. Especially his G-Perms looked weird since he does that E turn

 

[Chapuunka]

Skip to 7:08 for the G perms.

Was that on purpose or just irony?

 

[teller]

Proabably not what you want to hear, but:

(R U R') (U' D) R2 U' R U' R' U R' U R2 (U D')

 

[Cubenovice]

Skip to 7:08 for the G perms.

Was that on purpose or just irony?

or?

 

[Joker]

Skip to 7:08 for the G perms.

Was that on purpose or just irony?

Irony >_>

 

[theace]

i hate the G perms as well. I'll check out the vids soon.

 

[Joker]

i hate the G perms as well. I'll check out the vids soon.

Atleast they aren't as bad as N perms

 

[theace]

I swear... Damn repetitive things! N Perms are looong! But they aren't awkward.

 

[Joker]

I swear... Damn repetitive things! N Perms are looong! But they aren't awkward.

An N perm stopped me from beating my 3x3 PB today. My F2L was epic, but then I got an N perm and I got .07 more than my PB D:<

 

[Radu]

Here's Radu's G(d) & G(c)...I've never seen them anywhere before. I came up with this about 3 weeks ago, so I'm not very fast at the moment. But as you, I also hate those regrips.(Also use the mirror). It fits better my fingertricks style.

(y2)
(L U L') (B2 D') (R U' R' U R' D) Fw2
Start with left thumb on UL edge.

Here's also the mirror if you're interested

(R' U' R) (B2 D) (L' U L U' L D') Fw2