Anyone know this Alg or an equivalent for LL edges?

[xchiltonx]

Does anyone know an alternative for:
MDM'DMDM'D'MD'M'D'
(oh sorry this does the cube with LL on D)
(M is center slice down)

I can not find it in Bernard Helmstetter's pages as it with out affecting corners nor if you ignore corners
http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/~bh/cube/

I thought that this was supposed to be a complete list?

 

[Cerberus]

do you need this for ELL?
if not I could give you 1 + mirror
D'MD'M'D2MD'M'
or
D2MDM'D2MDM'

 

[Sa967St]

not too helpful but this works:
MDM'D2MDM' z2, then a cw. U perm

 

[Jude]

z2 y' L' U' L U M' U' L' U' L y z2 any use? I use this for edge insertions on FMC.

 

[qqwref]

I think I solve this case with r' U' R U M' U' R' U R.

The mirror (l' U' L U M U' L' U L) also works.

 

[guusrs]

Its my fastest LL algorithm and also popular for FMC (insertions):
commutator [B R B', M'] so B' R B M' B' R' B M
At helmstetter's page: http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/~bh/cube/solutions_a2.html
it says: BL'B'<R'L>ULU'<RL'>
Gus

 

[xchiltonx]

No no, it's not at all this one. As Sa967St explains the difference (thanks) I now realise that I should have said that at the start.
MDM'DMDM'D'MD'M'D' is a shorter way than these two added together.

Wait I found http://rokumentai.akimoto3.com/ELL.htm and it looks like 15 or 16, 15a or 16a...
ok 15, showing F'U'FUS'U'F'UB

 

[xchiltonx]

sorry I was off a bit before seeing the new posts,

yeh that's the one Guusrs, but I was wanting to find it in http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/~bh/cube/solutions_a1.html (doing the edges first) I can't see why it's not in there???

 

[xchiltonx]

No really, why is it not in http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/~bh/cube/solutions_a1.html ???

 

[qqwref]

It's there, you're just not looking for it the right way. You have to fix two edges first, so that you have a 2-cycle of edges instead. You don't want those algs, though, they mess up corners... just go with what people said in the thread.