Additional use for COLL

[Weston]

As far as I know, people that know COLL use it when all the LL edges are oriented correctly. I think that the problem with this, is that some of the COLL algs are slow, compared to the alg that you would do otherwise if you did not know COLL.

So what about using COLL when all edges are unoriented? Since the OLL algs where all the edges are unoriented incorrectly are generally slower than most other OLLs, you aren't really giving up a really fast alg just to have your corners permuted. After you do the COLL alg on the all-edges-unoriented case, you would have 1 of 5 ELL cases to do.

What do you think?

 

[Escher]

Have you heard of CLLEF?
That flips the edges and solves the corner permutation/orientation, giving you a nice EPLL

EDIT: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7809

 

[nigtv]

Since the OLL algs where all the edges are unoriented incorrectly are generally than most other OLLs

Are you missing a word there?

 

[Weston]

Since the OLL algs where all the edges are unoriented incorrectly are generally than most other OLLs

Are you missing a word there?

yes I am. I forgot to add "slower" in between generally and than. lol

Have you heard of CLLEF?
That flips the edges and solves the corner permutation/orientation, giving you a nice EPLL

EDIT: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7809

I was actually independently thinking of that when I thought of this. But I decided that the CLLEF algs would probably be really bad. lol I would imagine that ELL cases are pretty good since they can be done with MU.

 

[Escher]

Have you heard of CLLEF?
That flips the edges and solves the corner permutation/orientation, giving you a nice EPLL

EDIT: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7809

I was actually independently thinking of that when I thought of this. But I decided that the CLLEF algs would probably be really bad. lol I would imagine that ELL cases are pretty good since they can be done with MU.

Well actually, they seem nice, just browsing over a few in the Wiki...

so basically what you're suggesting is using CLL/ELL but preserving EO during CLL?

 

[Weston]

Well actually, they seem nice, just browsing over a few in the Wiki...

so basically what you're suggesting is using CLL/ELL but preserving EO during CLL?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. I guess you would have better algs not preserving EO, but then youd have to learn all the ELL cases and I think recognition would be a little harder. This is just an alternative way to deal with the bad OLLs and only learning 5 new algs.

 

[Cyrus C.]

So you do CLL then ELL? Instead of OLL then PLL?

 

[StachuK1992]

So you do CLL then ELL? Instead of OLL then PLL?

Oh God...Salvia

 

[ErikJ]

have you looked at the ELL algs? they suck. COLL algs are about as fast as PLL for me but then they leave a nice EPLL so it all evens out. and EPLL skips are 1 in 12.