A collection of CxLL algs.

[Kenneth]

So, where is the ELL version

And you got nothing else to do than that I assume?

It's a bit of work, I won't do it, at least not now. For the moment I'm writing pages for some of my experimental methods and after that I plan to move the description of my big cube method over to the wiki, update it a little and add some images. That's enough work for at least a month.

 

[joey]

I've nearly learned most of ELL anyway.
I have to learn CLL, except I need CLLBDMUE (corners of the last layer, but dont mess up the edges!), so most of the algs are useless to me :S

 

[Kenneth]

I've nearly learned most of ELL anyway.
I have to learn CLL, except I need CLLBDMUE (corners of the last layer, but dont mess up the edges!), so most of the algs are useless to me :S

I have been thinking of putting algs also for those cases to the pages but then I need to do descriptions for each case because it is more than 40 of them (I know around 20-30 as is). I'm not sure but I think it is around 80 or so (doing ELL first is better, like 14 cases).

But I can give you Sune-Bruno, it is at least one

R U R' U R' U' R2 U' R2 U2 R ... also mirror (or inverse)

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waffle=ijm: the algs are there so you and everybody else can use them, in vids or anywhere.

 

[Quadrescence]

hyperorientations

thought this would be appropriate.

http://home.comcast.net/~quadricode/hyperorientations/

knock yourself out.

 

[Kenneth]

It's above the scope of the page, same goes for ZBLL and a style I use sometimes where you orient LL edges when doing CLL (CEOLL maybe? I used to call it XCLL, = eXtended CLL). I think, if we put methods like that in the wiki, it will be in separate pages for each method because of the many cases they got (XCLL is 300+, ZBLL is nearly 500).

 

[Kenneth]

I just added an alg that I just found, a really great, short and speedy 2-gen for CMLL (Roux) case H U.

One of my better findings lateley

CxLL_H_U#CMLL

 

[LarsN]

Would it be allright to add CLLEF to the CxLL page?

It's the same 40 cases as COLL only with all edges flipped, which means recognition is the same.

The method is discussed in this thread: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7809

 

[LarsN]

I was wondering about the recognition method for the CxLL page. Is it some kind of approved standard? I find it hard to use because you need to look all around the cube for different stickers.
The main reasson might be because I learned COLL from Bob Burtons page, which only requires you to look at U and F.

The page has a link to a method called "Hyperorientations" maybe there should be a link to Bobs method or a description of it?

 

[Kenneth]

Yes you can add your algs.

There is no standard for recognition, the system at the pages is mine, but I guess most is the same as everybody uses.

You are free to add links to any page that may be to some help to someone

 

[qqwref]

Er, this CxLL thing is kind of cool, but I don't like the organization. If someone wants to add algorithms for a new CxLL method they have to edit about 40 different pages (!!!) and if you want to learn CxLL you also have to look at 40 or so different pages. Can you guys please try to condense it? Here is my idea for the organization:
- One introduction page describing what CxLL is, like we already have.
- One page describing the cases. This would for example say which cases are mirrors of other cases, and this would also describe the most common ways to recognize the cases.
- One page for each method: CLL, CMLL, 2x2 CLL, COLL, CLLEF, EG...

I think this would make it much easier to navigate the pages and learn the methods. If someone agrees that this would be better than forcing someone to look through 40 separate articles just to learn a method, but nobody wants to do it, I'd be glad to help.

 

[Kenneth]

I made it this way so there is one page per case so it is possible to add many methods having the same recognition. It would make enormous pages if it all shall fit into one page. Having it like this you can also compare methods easily.

I suggest you keep this page and if you like, fill in algs for all COLL at the COLL page and so on, we can have both.

 

[qqwref]

Why would you want to compare methods, though? They're all used for different situations. If you're trying to learn CMLL, it doesn't matter what the EG or CLLEF or CLL algs are, you need CMLL algs and that's it. It's just inconvenient to have all the algs on different pages. If you are learning a method, you don't just learn one case at a time, you have to have them all in front of you so you can see what you are doing.

And the pages would not actually be that gigantic, each page would basically be a table of algorithms, like this: http://erikku.er.funpic.org/rubik/EGCase_1.html. If you want to know the recognition there is a separate page for that, which is better because it would compare the recognition for similar cases rather than just showing what one case looks like. I think the pages for each set of algorithms would be smaller than the OLL and KBCM Step 6 pages.