blgentry
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In another thread (easiest beginner method), brunson wrote:
I was having a hard time understanding this, then I got it. ALL edges. I know you mess with block building methods, so maybe this was intuitive for you. For me, I had to do:
A. White cross (or whatever color).
B. (with cross on bottom) Three middle layer edges. I pretended I was doing keyhole, except all the holes were keyholes.
C. Solve 4 top layer edges (yellow in my case) by swapping them in and out of the keyhole edge. Once done, the keyhole edge is automatically in place. This is just like step three of 8355.
This get a little weird as you are trying to solve only three and keep the keyhole corner open. Sometimes it wants to solve itself, or it's the only one you can easily solve. Either way, this isn't a big deal, just weird in some cases.
I've found that the "fix" is identical every time. Two edges in U are correct (after AUF). One is wrong and the other is in the keyhole. Do a 3 way swap, and all 4 are right in one "move".
Yep. Works every time. This is a really interesting variation on 8355 IMHO.
I've added another variation: Don't solve the edges on the white layer to start. Just do three of the second layer edges (as in 1B. above). Then do the four top yellow edges (like in 1C. above, but with a few extra moves). Then go directly to step 2. Step 3 gets longer, as you have to rearrange more edges, but you know how to do that if you know how to do step 1C. Step 4 is the same.
I disagree. I think it's different enough to warrant more study and playing with it. My biggest question is, do you expect a beginner to be able to do all edges with pure intuition like Petrus? Or do you expect them to follow my A through C technique above? If so, 1B is kinda keyhole, just without rotating the keyhole around. They are both obvious to me, but I'm a cuber. <shrug>
My variation is definitely different, though I'm not sure it's all that useful. OTOH, since there's no bottom layer cross, doing the three second layer edges actually is intuitive.
It doesn't.
I'm curious what others think of this method, or what they might add to it, or change about it. Good stuff Senior Brunson!
Brian.
I was having a hard time understanding this, then I got it. ALL edges. I know you mess with block building methods, so maybe this was intuitive for you. For me, I had to do:
A. White cross (or whatever color).
B. (with cross on bottom) Three middle layer edges. I pretended I was doing keyhole, except all the holes were keyholes.
C. Solve 4 top layer edges (yellow in my case) by swapping them in and out of the keyhole edge. Once done, the keyhole edge is automatically in place. This is just like step three of 8355.
This get a little weird as you are trying to solve only three and keep the keyhole corner open. Sometimes it wants to solve itself, or it's the only one you can easily solve. Either way, this isn't a big deal, just weird in some cases.
I've found that the "fix" is identical every time. Two edges in U are correct (after AUF). One is wrong and the other is in the keyhole. Do a 3 way swap, and all 4 are right in one "move".
Yep. Works every time. This is a really interesting variation on 8355 IMHO.
I've added another variation: Don't solve the edges on the white layer to start. Just do three of the second layer edges (as in 1B. above). Then do the four top yellow edges (like in 1C. above, but with a few extra moves). Then go directly to step 2. Step 3 gets longer, as you have to rearrange more edges, but you know how to do that if you know how to do step 1C. Step 4 is the same.
I disagree. I think it's different enough to warrant more study and playing with it. My biggest question is, do you expect a beginner to be able to do all edges with pure intuition like Petrus? Or do you expect them to follow my A through C technique above? If so, 1B is kinda keyhole, just without rotating the keyhole around. They are both obvious to me, but I'm a cuber. <shrug>
My variation is definitely different, though I'm not sure it's all that useful. OTOH, since there's no bottom layer cross, doing the three second layer edges actually is intuitive.
It doesn't.
I'm curious what others think of this method, or what they might add to it, or change about it. Good stuff Senior Brunson!
Brian.
