[Help Thread] 3BLD M2/OP help

[Awesomeroks]

Hi,
I have been blind solving for a while now and have tried many memo methods now. I have found out that journey+ audio works best for me. I do corners with journey and edges with audio. By audio I mean just memorizing edges not as pairs but as a whole. If the targets are say: AB EF HY OV PA, I just remember it as ABEFHYOVPA. It makes memo faster but I'm having a problem. I'm unable to keep track of the middle slice as I don't use letter pairs. This is solved if I swap my memo methods, but my solves are slower. Can someone help me solve this problem.

BTW, I have already tried the leg thing....

 

[turtwig]

You can still keep track of letter pairs while still using audio. What I do is that I put two letters into a syllable so I can identify the parity of the letter.

 

[YouCubing]

I also happen to use audio and letter pairs instead of one big word work best for me.
So instead of trying to remember say, 12 letters, or a really long word, I can just remember 6 short words which are just as easy to memorize as individual letters, cutting my memo time essentially in half. It's also a lot easier to remember while doing execution, so I don't have to think "Wait, was that D or B?" I suppose you could argue that I could think "Wait, was that 'quip' or 'quit'?", but for some reason I find quip and quit a lot easier to distinguish than D and B, possibly because they hve more "personality", if that makes any sense.

 

[Awesomeroks]

I also happen to use audio and letter pairs instead of one big word work best for me.
So instead of trying to remember say, 12 letters, or a really long word, I can just remember 6 short words which are just as easy to memorize as individual letters, cutting my memo time essentially in half. It's also a lot easier to remember while doing execution, so I don't have to think "Wait, was that D or B?" I suppose you could argue that I could think "Wait, was that 'quip' or 'quit'?", but for some reason I find quip and quit a lot easier to distinguish than D and B, possibly because they hve more "personality", if that makes any sense.

i already tried letter pairs. It doesnt work for me.

You can still keep track of letter pairs while still using audio. What I do is that I put two letters into a syllable so I can identify the parity of the letter.

putting 2 letters into a syllable confuses me. You have to remember more number of syllables. :/

 

[h2f]

putting 2 letters into a syllable confuses me. You have to remember more number of syllables. :/

What are your times?

 

[Awesomeroks]

What are your times?

Around 1:50 with audio edges,journey corners

 

[mark49152]

i already tried letter pairs. It doesnt work for me.

putting 2 letters into a syllable confuses me. You have to remember more number of syllables. :/

For my audio, I use 4-letter words. That way I don't make as many mistakes mixing up the sequence as I might with twice as many 2-letter words, but it's just as easy to track odd and even targets.

Also consider whether you do your even target swap during memo or execution. For example, think about targets C & W in Speffz. If you swap in execution, it means you have to think about whether you're on an even target and whether C means you should actually shoot to W, etc. Personally I find it easier to switch in memo, so if I hit C on an even target I will memo as W. That way during execution you do not have to care about odd and even targets.

 

[h2f]

Around 1:50 with audio edges,journey corners

I asked because I wanted to know what your level of skill is. Than it came to my mind the idea of ticking your feet. First letter - feet up; second - down. Etc.

 

[Awesomeroks]

For my audio, I use 4-letter words. That way I don't make as many mistakes mixing up the sequence as I might with twice as many 2-letter words, but it's just as easy to track odd and even targets.

Also consider whether you do your even target swap during memo or execution. For example, think about targets C & W in Speffz. If you swap in execution, it means you have to think about whether you're on an even target and whether C means you should actually shoot to W, etc. Personally I find it easier to switch in memo, so if I hit C on an even target I will memo as W. That way during execution you do not have to care about odd and even targets.

Nice. But how do you know if the target is even or odd while memorizing

I asked because I wanted to know what your level of skill is. Than it came to my mind the idea of ticking your feet. First letter - feet up; second - down. Etc.

I already tried that, letters go by really fast so I can't keep track.

 

[mark49152]

Nice. But how do you know if the target is even or odd while memorizing

1st and 3rd letters of each word are odd. 2nd and 4th are even. But I swap the letters before I memo the word. So the targets F C S T become the word FWST. C changes because it's even, S doesn't because it's odd. (Speffz lettering.) During execution there's nothing extra to do. W and S are always executed the same regardless of whether even or odd.

 

[Awesomeroks]

1st and 3rd letters of each word are odd. 2nd and 4th are even. But I swap the letters before I memo the word. So the targets F C S T become the word FWST. C changes because it's even, S doesn't because it's odd. (Speffz lettering.) During execution there's nothing extra to do. W and S are always executed the same regardless of whether even or odd.

i get the idea, its good......,but don't you have to recall your memo to see if the letter is even or odd?

 

[mark49152]

i get the idea, its good......,but don't you have to recall your memo to see if the letter is even or odd?

Not as long as you consistently use 4-letter words. Why would the preceding memo make a difference?