[3BLD CEEC] how to train memo retention for corners

[chelavnzuo]

In CEEC, one would usually use PAO (or something similar) to memorize corners, then do audio on edges, solve edges quickly, then move back to corners at last.

I use this approach and have trouble to retain the memory on corners after solving edges, or to be specific, the very first letter pair. If I can recall the first pair, then there's a high chance of recalling the entire PAO sequence, but like I said, usually there would be a long pause in order to recall the first corner pair, or I would completely blank out.

What are some good ways to train memo retention in this situation? For example will loci help even if it's just one cube, or there are better ways to practice? Thanks!

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

I used to take 3 seconds at least on each 3BLD attempt to recall corners, and I would just not remember corners 50% of the time. I thought the only solution was 2 passing. I didn't want to do that though, so I continued with one passing. Now I don't have any trouble doing it anymore. In fact, I don't even make a story from the words in corners: they are just separate, incoherent words now. The key is just to do tons of solves, and you will automatically develop the ability to recall corners fast.
What you could do additionally is to have a memory palace that you go through during your 3BLD session, and for each solve you use a room in which you put the image for your first letter pair on corners. If you don't instantly remember it, you can think of the room. For the next solve, you would go to the next room and so on and then you cycle rooms.

 

[Habsen]

I experienced the same problem quite often. My approach is to train edge memo and execution a lot to get it as fast as possible. This way I can reduce the time that I have to keep the corner memo in memory. It still happens but it's getting better.

 

[Christopher Cabrera]

I used to experience the same thing when I started blind, where I would feel like all I needed was the first pair in order to get the rest of the memo. one trick could be, once you finish memoing corners just repeat the first word 3 times really quickly in your head or truly focus on visualizing that first word. after a while this gets easier and you wont have to focus so hard on trying to recall the memo. I still do this a lot in multi when I do a quick pass memo review I'll try to remember the first letter pair for edges and corners of each cube. For 3Bld you don't really want to be reviewing at all, but like I said just repeating the first word 3 times real quick can help.

 

[chelavnzuo]

Thanks all, at my current stage I think reinforcement (e.g. repeat 3 times) and/or using a room will help, yes they might slow me down a bit but the trade-off is acceptable since I'm not fast yet. In the meantime tons of practice will make everything better eventually but it takes time to get there.

I think the cause might be me switching to full 3-style and it takes longer to do edges. I plan to downgrade to M2/Orozco for now and work on 3-style algs on the side.

 

[abunickabhi]

How is your corner memo retention now?

I would suggest to drill a lot, so that you build patterns.