3-Look Last Layer

[aznblur]

Which way should I learn for 3-Look Last Layer?

Method 1:
Orient Last Layer Edges
Orient+Permutate Last Layer Corners
Permutate Last Layer Edges (U, Z, H Permutations)

Method 2:
Orient Last Layer Edges
Orient Last Layer Corners
Permutate Last Layer

I'm leaning towards the 2nd method, but I just want to see what other people think.

 

[pjk]

Second method for sure. If you all PLLs, and then maybe 20 OLLs (which you will have learned from using method 2), you can avg sub-20 seconds.

Good luck.

 

[tenderchkn]

Method 2 allows you to expand to a 2-look. Learning COLL without knowing all PLLs is unnecessary and sometimes backfires - what happens if you get an OLL skip after either F2L or edge orientation?

 

[AvGalen]

First method 2, then method 1, combined with the rest of the ZB-method

 

[Fred]

Another option is to orient the edges earlier in your solve, like in Petrus or ZZ. Then you're left with a really easy 3-look last layer.

 

[AvGalen]

Why is that a "really easy 3-look last layer".

Some would argue that it is a really easy OLL and normal PLL. Others (theoretically) would argue that it is just a normal 1-look last layer.

 

[dChan]

Learn the second method. But throw in some easy OLLs like the H and T pattern OLL. It will save you some time.

 

[aznblur]

Alright thanks for the responses guys. And any sites you would recommend for PLL? Currently using this one > http://www.cubewhiz.com/pllprint.html

 

[watermelon]

There's tons more, but here are a few:

http://www.planet-puzzle.com/cubepll_evo.html
http://www.cubefreak.net/PLL.html
http://www.cubezone.be/pll.html
http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php...x3/cfop/pll/pll
http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Mike/permute.html
http://www.speedcubing.com/peter/AllesFastPermute.html
http://www.speedcubing.com/final_layer_permutation.html
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~leyanlo/pll.html
http://4none.goodmeet.net/909-tt/category/...%20Elements/PLL
^Just click on the numbers for each PLL on this one^

Those are the ones I can think of for now.

Hope this helps!

As for learning PLL, I would recommend looking at different algs for each case until you find one you like. That will help your times a lot later on.

 

[csfield]

Also:

http://www.cubezone.be/pll.html

http://www.solvethecube.co.uk/

 

[Erik]

And: http://erikku.er.funpic.org/rubik/PLL.html :lol: