1 Algorithm a day? Don't make me laugh.

[1LastSolve]

Honestly, who said that 1 Algorithm a day was enough, and 2 was too much for a day? My friend memorized every 4-Look Last Layer algorithm in LITERALLY 2 days. Sorry, but this is bogus. Today I tried it, and memorized full 2-Look OLL, but I admittedly had minor issues differentiating between Sune and Anti-Sune. Go ahead, don't listen to them. Memorize as many algorithms as you can, 1 Algorithm isn't even close to the limit.

 

[SpicyOranges]

I learned most of CLL in about a week... 4LLL is less than 20 algs, its not that hard.

 

[Rubiks560]

I don't think anyone claims that 1 algorithm a day is the limit.
I've learned 10+ in a day without an issue. And that isn't even that many. IIRC Justin Harder has done 50+ in a day.

 

[TheOneOnTheLeft]

Kevin Hays learned full OLL in two days. I haven't seen anyone suggest that 1 alg a day is the limit, more that it's a reasonable and steady pace for beginners to learn at. I don't think many people will dispute that as you get more and more used to learning algs, you can learn way more than one or two a day.

 

[DeeDubb]

Honestly, who said that 1 Algorithm a day was enough, and 2 was too much for a day? My friend memorized every 4-Look Last Layer algorithm in LITERALLY 2 days. Sorry, but this is bogus. Today I tried it, and memorized full 2-Look OLL, but I admittedly had minor issues differentiating between Sune and Anti-Sune. Go ahead, don't listen to them. Memorize as many algorithms as you can, 1 Algorithm isn't even close to the limit.

It's not just memorizing, but recognizing and executing. Also, I think people say 5 or 6 should be about the limit, but do at LEAST one per day. I'm doing 6 in a day, then waiting a few days so I can practice execution and get comfortable with them. It's a marathon, not a sprint!

 

[1LastSolve]

@Spicy When I was first watching beginner videos, they kept saying that "Oh you can't really learn more than 1 a day, or else you'll keep forgetting".
@560 Woah, 50? LOL Full 2-Look last layer in 2 Days, I WISH I could do that. (But I never know until I've tried )


qq holy crap, did this forum come alive, or is this post getting a lot of attention?

 

[kcl]

I did PLL in two days. Justin harder is abnormal for his learning of alg speed.

Beginner videos say that, but as you improve as a cuber you can pick them up much faster. When I first started I had trouble remembering U R U' R' U' F' U F lol

 

[DeeDubb]

@Spicy When I was first watching beginner videos, they kept saying that "Oh you can't really learn more than 1 a day, or else you'll keep forgetting".
@560 Woah, 50? LOL Full 2-Look last layer in 2 Days, I WISH I could do that. (But I never know until I've tried )


qq holy crap, did this forum come alive, or is this post getting a lot of attention?

Can you find the video that actually says that? I'd like to see who actually said that, and what kind of quality they put into their video.

 

[Tim Major]

You can LEARN more than that many in a day, but they won't stick/you'll have major recall issues.

I learnt EG1 in about a week, even with a lot of practise I would pause for a bit, then look up the alg. I'd KNOW the alg, but I couldn't execute it under the pressure of a solve.

 

[kcl]

You can LEARN more than that many in a day, but they won't stick/you'll have major recall issues.

I learnt EG1 in about a week, even with a lot of practise I would pause for a bit, then look up the alg. I'd KNOW the alg, but I couldn't execute it under the pressure of a solve.

Although didn't you forget it all?

 

[Hays]

Kevin Hays learned full OLL in two days.

Can confirm.

In my opinion if you are learning a set of algorithms, you should learn all of them as fast as you can. "Learning" meaning to where you can execute them eventually without looking at your algorithm sheet. This will mean you will probably be slower for a bit because of the long recall/execution times. Then just practice a ton until your recall/recognition/execution time goes down.

 

[kcl]

Can confirm.

In my opinion if you are learning a set of algorithms, you should learn all of them as fast as you can. "Learning" meaning to where you can execute them eventually without looking at your algorithm sheet. This will mean you will probably be slower for a bit because of the long recall/execution times. Then just practice a ton until your recall/recognition/execution time goes down.

Thank you, I was arguing with someone about this on another forum. He tried to tell me you should learn recog as you go. I said no, spam learn the alg, recognition gets fast with time.

 

[~Adam~]

I learnt all 4 G perms on a 20 min train ride.

There really isn't a 1 a day limit nor have I ever heard of that being a thing.

 

[qqwref]

@Spicy When I was first watching beginner videos, they kept saying that "Oh you can't really learn more than 1 a day, or else you'll keep forgetting".

Beginner videos say a lot of dumb stuff. I don't recommend listening too carefully to what they have to say. Remember that those videos are usually outdated, and a lot of them are made by people who don't know much beyond the beginner method anyway.

 

[Tim Major]

Although didn't you forget it all?

Yep. But I think if I had a sheet with all the algs I learnt (I learnt them from a few different places+my own algs so this is a pain) I could relearn EG1 quickly. They're kind of at the back of my mind.

I knew them for one comp and didn't really use them because they were shaky due to how quickly I had learnt them. I agree with Kevin. Learning algs quickly is good in the long run, but you take a big short term hit.

You could learn ZBLL over a couple of years with little rise in times.

Or you could learn ZBLL in a couple of months and have a huge rise in times for a few more months.

 

[DeeDubb]

For CMLL, I'm learning them in groups. That way, when I'm doing my untimed solves, I can "force" a random Sune or Anti-Sune or Bowtie, whatever I'm working on, so I can get a chance to recognize and execute. I think recognition is probably even more difficult than memorizing the algorithm. Being able to associate a certain look with the right algorithm seems to take the most time.

 

[antoineccantin]

It depends on the specific alg set. Some sets of algs are harder to learn many algs at a time as the recognition is very difficult, and the algs are similar. 2Look OLL is very easy, as it has very simple recognition, and the algs are short and fluid. It is therefore no big feat to learn it in a day.
Some other sets, such as 2GLL for example, have sometimes very confusion recognition, and the algs themselves are difficult to learn as they are all R and U moves and are often very long (without counting the sune combo algs). Try learning 15 different non-sune 2GLLs in a day.

 

[Imago]

well meh.. i memorize 1 OLL algorithm a day that includes everything, mirrors, inversions, orientations, i study them and perform them with blindfold.. practice all day..

my technique is this one.

i start with a list of OLLs

once i have done memorizing the first alg i perform it
on second day, i start practicing with alg i learn the previous day and pperform it together

usually i limit myself solving the cube whole because i am now practicing and optimizing my F2L so after i finish F2L and cross i scramble

 

[1LastSolve]

@DeeDubb Google "How to learn Rubik's cube algorithms" or "How to solve the Rubik's Cube". Click on video. Search through randumb videos. 8D, your answer lies there... anyway, I agree with the thing about recognition. Like if you've ever had trouble with G-Perms... But I really think that it's dependent on the algorithm.

@Imago Hm... That's understandable, but I'd really only do it like that for something like G-Perms

 

[DeeDubb]

@DeeDubb Google "How to learn Rubik's cube algorithms" or "How to solve the Rubik's Cube". Click on video. Search through randumb videos. 8D, your answer lies there... anyway, I agree with the thing about recognition. Like if you've ever had trouble with G-Perms... But I really think that it's dependent on the algorithm.

You are the one that made the claim that people say "Oh you can't really learn more than 1 a day, or else you'll keep forgetting", so the burden is on you to support it. I'm not going to scour the internet to find things to support your claim. I just don't think anyone has literally said you will forget if you try to memorize more than one algorithm. I've seen lots that recommend it, but never that said you can't learn more than one.