Świerklany Open 2011 4 WRs

[David1994]

Cant find any videos

 

[Robert-Y]

Everyone who seems to have entered in the 666 first round were registered apart from Wojciech Fydrych.

 

[rahulkadukar]

I don't see what the fuss is about as long as

1. The scrambles were did using official WCA scrambles.
2. The WCA delegate had no problem with the second round.
3. Everybody present did not have a problem.

I mean its ok if there were 2 rounds as long as they were official.

 

[Shortey]

I don't see what the fuss is about as long as

1. The scrambles were did using official WCA scrambles.
2. The WCA delegate had no problem with the second round.
3. Everybody present did not have a problem.

I mean its ok if there were 2 rounds as long as they were official.

The problem is that they did not follow the rules.

 

[Adam96]

Piotr Tomczyk - 10.68 OH 3x3 WR: Easy F2L, OLL - FURU2R'U'RUR'F', PLL skip.

 

[JuGglEr]

I confirm. It was like 3 move cross but I added few moves to preserve one pair, then quite easy F2L, oll and WR Really happy about this, I didn't expect it at all. And next solve wasn't 11, but probably 17, I think it was already fixed.

 

[amostay2004]

Oh..I thought what he meant was that the WR wasn't official when he said that it wasn't recorded

 

[Adam96]

I mean, there aren't video.

 

[Tao Yu]

For reasons rahulkadukar and I said I believe this should be WR. It is the fastest solve following all the rules. I think that a WR is so we know what is the best

However when I read what Amos says I changed my mind a bit as its clear that an extra round gave him more chance of getting the WR.
I think the easiest solution is to give the competitors of this comp less chances next time, or to give everyone else more chances.

However this is still a bit unfair as I don't see what the competitors did wrong. Unless it was a HaiYan-like incident and I see no reason to do this.
And there is obviously a reason for the rule about the rounds so making everyone break the rule is maybe not worth it.

I'm curious to know how this will end up.

 

[Meisen]

It is actually very easy. If the rules were followed the record stands, if they were not followed the record is no record.

It's sad for the competitor that his record is disallowed when it's of no fault of his own, never the less, the rules must be followed.

If, in retrospect, wca finds this unfair, they can change the rules, but that will not matter for this competition/record.

If wca decides to allow this record, it all falls to pieces. As someone stated earlier, why not have a hundred rounds of 3x3...

Rules are there for a reason, to make surroundings as similar as possible for all competitors all over the world.

Again, sad for the competitor with the disallowed record, but i guess he can use this as motivation to beat his "old record" in the next official tournament

 

[Vincents]

Everyone who seems to have entered in the 666 first round were registered apart from Wojciech Fydrych.

This, I think, is what has most of us going WTF? What's happening here? The possible scenario we're all up in arms about is that due to discussion on this thread about the lack of competitors, they got some random dude to make the round legal, and only added him to the results when they were made aware of their mistake. The fact that he only DNFed twice and didn't even start a third time also doesn't help matters.

 

[Meep]

Everyone who seems to have entered in the 666 first round were registered apart from Wojciech Fydrych.

Yeah I don't think the 6x6x6 WRs should count, as it seems like they added the guy to the first round after the final round had already finished (and after people started pointing out that there were 7 people).

 

[Mike Hughey]

I think speculation should stop here, and we should see what the delegate tells the WCA. If the rules were followed, the record should count; if not, it should not. It's silly to speculate about this here on the Forum.

We should really not speculate on what was viewed on live results, since often they are unreliable (the delegate has not had time to check things over, scoresheets may have been temporarily misplaced but known about, etc.).

Also, it is entirely reasonable for someone to have had 2 DNFs and a DNS; perhaps they had a hard cutoff and the person with the DNFs didn't make the cutoff. In that case, they would be assigned DNFs.

 

[Vincents]

Okay, I will stop, but I'll post a few FACTS just because I spent the last 30 minutes clicking before I saw Mike's post.

Wojciech Fydrych:
- Is an organizer of this competition,
- Has never competed in a WCA competition before (I could not find a WCA profile page),
- Was registered for 3x3, 4x4, 3x3OH, and Megaminx,
- Averaged 16.48s in 3x3 Round 1 (26.19 17.84 15.80 14.34 15.80 ),
- Averaged 27.13s in 3x3 Round 2 (26.97 19.25 20.13 34.28 50.28),
- Averaged 24.37s in 3x3OH Round 1 (25.18 25.31 20.30 23.46 24.48 ),
- Averaged 23.30s in 3x3OH Finals (20.90 20.08 24.43 26.58 24.58 ),
- Averaged 1:16.26 in 4x4 Combined Finals (1:13.41 1:16.43 1:22.90 1:18.94 1:11.31 ),
- Did not enter 5x5,
- Averaged a DNF in 6x6 First Round (DNF DNF DNS),
- Averaged a DNF in Megaminx (2:30.99 2:39.02 DNS DNS DNS)


Although I could not find it, a quick glance at 6x6 Round 1 results shows a possible cutoff of 5:00.00, as everyone who had a first solve time under 5:00.00 also started solves 2 and 3; everyone who didn't did not start solves 2 and 3 (except for Mr. Fydrych). This is based on results as currently posted.

And that's all I'm saying for now.

 

[Kirjava]

I mean its ok if there were 2 rounds as long as they were official.

You can't just have as many rounds as you like.

 

[Forte]

Yeah it's like Amos was saying, having 100 rounds of 3x3 instead of 1 round will obviously increase your chances of better times, so how is 2 rounds any different?

 

[yockee]

Wow.... two of Faz'es WRs broken in one comp. Michal really deserves those WRs especially since he beat the7x7 WR single with an average! too bad he didn't get the 6x6 single...Michal (or Kevin)deserves it more than Faz

Why do they deserve it more than Feliks? If Feliks gets a record, it's because he worked really hard to get it! Anyone can beat him at anytime if they work hard enough. Feliks will probably be practicing a LOT of OH and 6x6 until he gets the records back.

 

[iEnjoyCubing]

Congratz! Did anyone film those solves?

 

[antoineccantin]

Congratz! Did anyone film those solves?

Michał Halczuk's WRs are recorded. Piotr's - no.

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[Adam96]

Video of WR - 6x6 mean of 3 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbRhKQ8LLyE
and single ER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q_3tgm2zr4