quad siamese 3x3

Well, I just can't hold it in any longer, my twistypuzzles.com account is still awaiting verification and the description on this forum says "about solving rubiks cubes and other twisty puzzles" so I'll just assume that means custom ones too .

Just finished her today, it was actually a really simple mod:





its actually a lot harder than just solving four 3x3's since certain moves are restricted. I can usually solve a 3x3 in 35-45 seconds, well this beast took me almost 20 minutes to solve my first time. I ended up using the original beginners method I learned that only uses 3 algs since almost none of the fridrich algs work on this thing and f2l would be really hard as well. One nifty thing about it is that it almost forces you to start on a different color each time.

I'm probably going to slap some cubesmith stickers on the whole thing and put it up on ebay just to see how much I can get.

PS - I really want to see someone do this blindfolded but I'm not sure that's even possible. Almost none of the algs work, and it would require some INSANE setup moves even for orientation.

PPS - I can get a video of it if anyone wants.

wow

coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool thing

I'd buy it, but the bid will probably go high

thats pretty cool, i would buy it but it looks a little too beastly for me personally. but im sure a lot of people would bid for it

Cool idea. Congrats on getting it done.

It looks beastly indeed! Wow. I wanna see a video of you solving it! I don't care if it takes twenty minutes! I'd watch it =P

lol, I'll see if I can make a video tonight.

I also made a couple 1x1x1's with the leftovers from the fused corner pieces =P.

mkriegs said:

I'm probably going to slap some cubesmith stickers on the whole thing and put it up on ebay just to see how much I can get.

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Tony Fisher won't be happy if you are selling a siamese cube...
http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6896&highlight=copy

I got a video up, I cut my time in half since my first solve: http://www.speedsolving.com/showthread.php?p=27574

Erik said:

mkriegs said:

I'm probably going to slap some cubesmith stickers on the whole thing and put it up on ebay just to see how much I can get.

Click to expand...

Tony Fisher won't be happy if you are selling a siamese cube...
http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6896&highlight=copy

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interesting, thanks for bringing that to my attention, I'll definitely ask him first if I ever sell this thing.

However, I don't know Tony Fisher but if he's a reasonable guy I don't think he would have a problem with me selling mine. Mostly because our cubes are siamesed in a much different way (he fuses the entire edge whereas I fused the corners) and from what I saw he hasn't done anything where the cubes are connected in a ring like mine.

dude i saw one of those 1x1x1's, pretty wicked man.

So what are you planning on starting this off at?

mkriegs said:

I got a video up, I cut my time in half since my first solve: http://www.speedsolving.com/showthread.php?p=27574

Erik said:

mkriegs said:

I'm probably going to slap some cubesmith stickers on the whole thing and put it up on ebay just to see how much I can get.

Click to expand...

Tony Fisher won't be happy if you are selling a siamese cube...
http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6896&highlight=copy

Click to expand...

interesting, thanks for bringing that to my attention, I'll definitely ask him first if I ever sell this thing.

However, I don't know Tony Fisher but if he's a reasonable guy I don't think he would have a problem with me selling mine. Mostly because our cubes are siamesed in a much different way (he fuses the entire edge whereas I fused the corners) and from what I saw he hasn't done anything where the cubes are connected in a ring like mine.

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I'm quite sure he doesn't want you to sell it to be honest although he is a nice guy. The principal is the same... and since it is in group 1....
ah well we'll see..

Someone over at Twisty Puzzles mentioned that the first Siamese Cubes were sold over 20 years ago. So if Tony Fisher had gone to the trouble to patent it (which he didn't), his patent would have expired by now. I don't see why anyone should feel guilty at this point selling Siamese Cubes. Especially if they're a slightly different design, like this one.

If I'm wrong about the 20 years, then I will gladly take this back, but if Siamese Cubes have been sold for 20 years, I don't see why "respect" should prevent other people from making them. The patent law would not have protected this anymore. With any invention, after 17 years others are allowed to copy it, legally, and there are good reasons for this. If he was doing this less than 20 years after Tony Fisher started making his Siamese Cubes, I would probably feel differently, but I don't see why there should be any negative feelings about doing this now.

People sell them anyway.

Example: http://www.onhobby.com/shop/shopbrand.html?xcode=010&type=O

Granted, it's a Korean shop that only sells to Korean residents, but that's besides the point.

Erik said:

mkriegs said:

I got a video up, I cut my time in half since my first solve: http://www.speedsolving.com/showthread.php?p=27574

Erik said:

mkriegs said:

I'm probably going to slap some cubesmith stickers on the whole thing and put it up on ebay just to see how much I can get.

Click to expand...

Tony Fisher won't be happy if you are selling a siamese cube...
http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6896&highlight=copy

Click to expand...

interesting, thanks for bringing that to my attention, I'll definitely ask him first if I ever sell this thing.

However, I don't know Tony Fisher but if he's a reasonable guy I don't think he would have a problem with me selling mine. Mostly because our cubes are siamesed in a much different way (he fuses the entire edge whereas I fused the corners) and from what I saw he hasn't done anything where the cubes are connected in a ring like mine.

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I'm quite sure he doesn't want you to sell it to be honest although he is a nice guy. The principal is the same... and since it is in group 1....
ah well we'll see..

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I don't mean to sound like, disrespectful, but why should it matter if he was to sell it, as in, he constructed it, and put the time and effort into it, how come MR fisher would mind. no disrespect to anyone

Ok, I'm irreverent enough to BE disrespectful. What gives Tony Fisher the right? Ok, he's a brilliant man and he's made some awesome puzzles, but it was his choice not to mass market them thus making it cost prohibitive to patent them.

Now, although he freely admits that he has copied (and expanded upon) other people's ideas, he has the audacity to request (on a message board, no less) that others don't copy or expand upon his ideas or market any similar creations. Sorry, that's not the way the world works.

I don't know where or how respect even comes into the equation. What about respect for Mkriegs, or anyone else who has the ingenuity to create? Mr. Fisher loses respect in my estimation by attempting to stifle the creativity, ingenuity or industry of others.