PetrusQuber
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Is there any disadvantage to selecting those recog angles? e.g. for sune and antisune, I could always select the oriented corner to be URF.
Ota Mota's Progression Thread // Road to Sub-3.5 Ao1000 for ZBLL Recog+Exec
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OtaMota
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I only do twisted recog when it’s H or Pi. For Sune-Antisune, yeah I always do the oriented corner for my BH angle
PetrusQuber
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Sorry if this is a lot of questions so far, but I have one final clarification:
- With one recog angle: (AUF to recog angle), recognise case, (AUF to alg angle), solve
- With all recog angles: recognise case, (AUF to alg angle), solve
- With one recog angle, you could select the angle that has the most algs done from that angle, to save some AUFs? Or you can select the angle that reduces the number of cases (corner always facing up or towards)
- With all recog angles, it's just random whether or not you'll need to AUF after recognition
Not sure if this understanding is correct
OtaMota
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Yes
I just choose some random angle, regardless of if it reduces pre-AUF or something. I think for one-angle recog, just do the angle you do for CP recog
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Generated By csTimer on 2026-08-27
avg of 5: 9.19
Time List:
1. (7.91) L2 R2 D2 B U2 B' D2 L2 D2 R2 B2 R B' R2 D2 B F2 L U B2
2. (10.75) L U F2 R2 U2 R2 D L2 R2 F D' B L' B U2 L2 B2 R
3. 9.73 F2 L D2 F2 B2 L' D L B R' L2 U2 R B2 L2 F2 L' U2 B2 L'
4. 9.85 R2 U2 L' U L2 B2 R2 F2 D' B2 D2 B2 U2 B' U L2 F2 D2 R B'
5. 7.98 L' D' L B2 L F R2 D F' R2 U2 F2 L2 D2 F' D2 F' D2 F2 R2 L
PB avg
avg of 5: 9.19
Time List:
1. (7.91) L2 R2 D2 B U2 B' D2 L2 D2 R2 B2 R B' R2 D2 B F2 L U B2
2. (10.75) L U F2 R2 U2 R2 D L2 R2 F D' B L' B U2 L2 B2 R
3. 9.73 F2 L D2 F2 B2 L' D L B R' L2 U2 R B2 L2 F2 L' U2 B2 L'
4. 9.85 R2 U2 L' U L2 B2 R2 F2 D' B2 D2 B2 U2 B' U L2 F2 D2 R B'
5. 7.98 L' D' L B2 L F R2 D F' R2 U2 F2 L2 D2 F' D2 F' D2 F2 R2 L
PB avg
PetrusQuber
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Thanks for the help!
OtaMota
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Sub-12 ao1000!! I think I can consider myself sub-12 now
OtaMota
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Training Log:
M: Start of college; 9.38 PB avg, first counting sub-8, 9.29 PB avg, did ZBLL training
T: 6.31 PB Single, ZBLL training
W: ZBLL training, comp sims
R: LU-gen ao100, 9.19 PB avg
F: ZBLL training
St: First Sub-12 ao1000, double ZBLL training, 7 move cross training 22/25
Sn: Triple ZBLL training
M: Start of college; 9.38 PB avg, first counting sub-8, 9.29 PB avg, did ZBLL training
T: 6.31 PB Single, ZBLL training
W: ZBLL training, comp sims
R: LU-gen ao100, 9.19 PB avg
F: ZBLL training
St: First Sub-12 ao1000, double ZBLL training, 7 move cross training 22/25
Sn: Triple ZBLL training
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Generated By csTimer on 2026-09-06
single: 9.68
Time List:
1. 9.68 F R B L' U D2 F' B2 U2 D2 R B2 R D2 L' F2 D2 R' L2 U L
First CN sub-10. So White and Yellow were trash, so I decided to do red. Got bailed out with Sune ZBLL lol
Haven’t been CN in more than a year, so it’s nice that I am still able to pull something with it
single: 9.68
Time List:
1. 9.68 F R B L' U D2 F' B2 U2 D2 R B2 R D2 L' F2 D2 R' L2 U L
First CN sub-10. So White and Yellow were trash, so I decided to do red. Got bailed out with Sune ZBLL lol
Haven’t been CN in more than a year, so it’s nice that I am still able to pull something with it
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Training log:
M: LU-Gen ao100
T-W: Me when college
R: Comp Sims, ZBLL training
F: Double ZBLL Training
St: Cross training, 20/25, ZBLL training
Sn: LU-Gen ao100, triple ZBLL training, OLL review
M: LU-Gen ao100
T-W: Me when college
R: Comp Sims, ZBLL training
F: Double ZBLL Training
St: Cross training, 20/25, ZBLL training
Sn: LU-Gen ao100, triple ZBLL training, OLL review
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Generated By csTimer on 2026-09-12
avg of 5: 9.29
Time List:
1. 9.24 U2 R2 D2 L2 F2 R2 U2 R2 D' B2 U B R' F2 D' B' L2 D2 U' L' B2
2. (8.88) B' F2 D2 R D2 R U2 R2 B2 U2 L U' L2 D2 R' B' U L D2 L2
3. (13.52) L' F2 U' L2 F2 U R2 B2 F2 D' R2 U2 B R2 U' F' R B2 F D2 F
4. 9.09 U' R2 F D2 R' U F2 L B2 R2 F D2 R2 F R2 B D2 F2 R2 U' B'
5. 9.53 D' B2 F2 L2 U R2 F2 D F2 D2 L2 R' F' D' U F U' F' R B R'
PB2 avg
avg of 5: 9.29
Time List:
1. 9.24 U2 R2 D2 L2 F2 R2 U2 R2 D' B2 U B R' F2 D' B' L2 D2 U' L' B2
2. (8.88) B' F2 D2 R D2 R U2 R2 B2 U2 L U' L2 D2 R' B' U L D2 L2
3. (13.52) L' F2 U' L2 F2 U R2 B2 F2 D' R2 U2 B R2 U' F' R B2 F D2 F
4. 9.09 U' R2 F D2 R' U F2 L B2 R2 F D2 R2 F R2 B D2 F2 R2 U' B'
5. 9.53 D' B2 F2 L2 U R2 F2 D F2 D2 L2 R' F' D' U F U' F' R B R'
PB2 avg
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Update: College finally hit, so can’t practice much for a while.
But I have a comp tomorrow, so that’s exciting
Goals:
Major Goals (at least 2 means a successful comp)
Sub-10 single in 3x3 (PR)
Sub-12 average in 3x3
All averages sub-13 in 3x3
No ZBLL failures* in 3x3 and 4x4** (* it needs to be a complete failure to count like misrecoging case or just not doing the ZBLL correctly, long recog or lockups, though annoying, will still count as a success; ** I will give one solve in 4x4 a pass bc 4x4 is 4x4 with parity and just different turning)
My dad gets a successful solve in 3x3, and he has fun in the comp.
Minor goals (just some extra things):
4x4 PRs
Megaminx Sub-2 single (PR)
But I have a comp tomorrow, so that’s exciting
Goals:
Major Goals (at least 2 means a successful comp)
Sub-10 single in 3x3 (PR)
Sub-12 average in 3x3
All averages sub-13 in 3x3
No ZBLL failures* in 3x3 and 4x4** (* it needs to be a complete failure to count like misrecoging case or just not doing the ZBLL correctly, long recog or lockups, though annoying, will still count as a success; ** I will give one solve in 4x4 a pass bc 4x4 is 4x4 with parity and just different turning)
My dad gets a successful solve in 3x3, and he has fun in the comp.
Minor goals (just some extra things):
4x4 PRs
Megaminx Sub-2 single (PR)
OtaMota
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Update:
My dad gets a successful solve:
1:42 single and 2:10 avg.
Goals for all avg sub-13 and all solves ZBLL is still open (Solve 1 recog was goofy, but it was still a success I guess)
My dad gets a successful solve:
1:42 single and 2:10 avg. Goals for all avg sub-13 and all solves ZBLL is still open (Solve 1 recog was goofy, but it was still a success I guess)
OtaMota
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4x4 PRs:
I missed ZB on one solve, but I did give myself leniency for 4x4, so it’s fine and my goal is still open.
OtaMota
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Sorry for the late update.
Goals:
Major Goals (at least 2 means a successful comp):
Sub-10 single in 3x3 (PR):
Sub-12 average in 3x3:
All averages sub-13 in 3x3:
No ZBLL failures* in 3x3 and 4x4** (* it needs to be a complete failure to count like misrecoging case or just not doing the ZBLL correctly, long recog or lockups, though annoying, will still count as a success; ** I will give one solve in 4x4 a pass bc 4x4 is 4x4 with parity and just different turning):
My dad gets a successful solve in 3x3, and he has fun in the comp:
Minor goals (just some extra things):
4x4 PRs:
Megaminx Sub-2 single (PR): (I think the scrambles were illegal, I got overall pb first solve by like 10 seconds, then on third solve, +2ed out of beating it, then last solve I somehow got overall pb again.)
Goals:
Major Goals (at least 2 means a successful comp):
Sub-10 single in 3x3 (PR):
Sub-12 average in 3x3:
All averages sub-13 in 3x3:
No ZBLL failures* in 3x3 and 4x4** (* it needs to be a complete failure to count like misrecoging case or just not doing the ZBLL correctly, long recog or lockups, though annoying, will still count as a success; ** I will give one solve in 4x4 a pass bc 4x4 is 4x4 with parity and just different turning):
My dad gets a successful solve in 3x3, and he has fun in the comp:
Minor goals (just some extra things):
4x4 PRs:
Megaminx Sub-2 single (PR):
(I think the scrambles were illegal, I got overall pb first solve by like 10 seconds, then on third solve, +2ed out of beating it, then last solve I somehow got overall pb again.)
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Generated By csTimer on 2026-09-23
single: 39.46
Time List:
1. 39.46 U' F B2 L' F2 D2 L' U2 L2 B2 R D2 L' D2 F' D B L' D F U2 Fw2 Uw2 F' D' Rw2 D' L2 F R2 D F D2 Rw' Uw2 Rw2 B2 U L2 Fw L Uw2 F U Rw B'
PB2
single: 39.46
Time List:
1. 39.46 U' F B2 L' F2 D2 L' U2 L2 B2 R D2 L' D2 F' D B L' D F U2 Fw2 Uw2 F' D' Rw2 D' L2 F R2 D F D2 Rw' Uw2 Rw2 B2 U L2 Fw L Uw2 F U Rw B'
PB2
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Generated By csTimer on 2026-09-28
avg of 5: 46.84
Time List:
1. 47.04 R' U2 R' F2 B2 L2 B2 L' B2 U2 F2 U' R2 B' D' R2 L B U2 L2 Rw2 Fw2 R' U Uw2 L2 Rw2 D' Fw2 D2 L U' Rw2 F Fw Rw2 D' Fw U Rw' Fw Uw Rw Fw L2 U'
2. (45.29) D2 B R2 U L2 U' F2 D' L2 U2 D' F' D' B L D' L F R Fw2 D L Fw2 U Uw2 R' Fw2 U' R2 Rw2 Uw2 R2 Fw D' B D2 F' Uw' F' Rw' U2 Uw B L Rw'
3. 47.75 L D F2 U' B2 R2 B2 U2 F2 D' F2 D F' D R L2 B' L' D2 L Fw2 R U Fw2 D Rw2 U R D2 L Fw2 U2 R Fw' Rw2 F2 B2 Uw' L' D F' Uw' F Rw' U
4. (49.51) U2 F L2 D2 B2 D' R' F U L2 F D2 F B U2 D2 B2 R2 Uw2 F U' Rw2 B U' B2 Fw2 U' D B' U Rw U Uw2 B2 Rw Fw2 U' F' Uw' Rw' D' Uw2
5. 45.73 B2 R B2 U R2 U B2 U' L2 B2 R2 D2 R L2 D R2 B R' B R' Fw2 Uw2 F B L' B Uw2 F' Rw2 B' D2 Fw2 L' Uw' B D2 Fw2 Uw B U' Rw' Uw2 Fw D2 Fw U
Not really sure, but might be first pure sub-50
avg of 5: 46.84
Time List:
1. 47.04 R' U2 R' F2 B2 L2 B2 L' B2 U2 F2 U' R2 B' D' R2 L B U2 L2 Rw2 Fw2 R' U Uw2 L2 Rw2 D' Fw2 D2 L U' Rw2 F Fw Rw2 D' Fw U Rw' Fw Uw Rw Fw L2 U'
2. (45.29) D2 B R2 U L2 U' F2 D' L2 U2 D' F' D' B L D' L F R Fw2 D L Fw2 U Uw2 R' Fw2 U' R2 Rw2 Uw2 R2 Fw D' B D2 F' Uw' F' Rw' U2 Uw B L Rw'
3. 47.75 L D F2 U' B2 R2 B2 U2 F2 D' F2 D F' D R L2 B' L' D2 L Fw2 R U Fw2 D Rw2 U R D2 L Fw2 U2 R Fw' Rw2 F2 B2 Uw' L' D F' Uw' F Rw' U
4. (49.51) U2 F L2 D2 B2 D' R' F U L2 F D2 F B U2 D2 B2 R2 Uw2 F U' Rw2 B U' B2 Fw2 U' D B' U Rw U Uw2 B2 Rw Fw2 U' F' Uw' Rw' D' Uw2
5. 45.73 B2 R B2 U R2 U B2 U' L2 B2 R2 D2 R L2 D R2 B R' B R' Fw2 Uw2 F B L' B Uw2 F' Rw2 B' D2 Fw2 L' Uw' B D2 Fw2 Uw B U' Rw' Uw2 Fw D2 Fw U
Not really sure, but might be first pure sub-50
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First 6x6.
Was doing my first 2-7 relay and got 14:42 so that’s nice. I was just glancing at the timer and doing quick math, but I think the 6x6 solve was just over 4 minutes, so that’s a good start.
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First sub-4 on 6x6
