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[MarcelP]

Another PB bao50 - 20.31. This Weilong is really making a difference now I have put some time in on it

Nice, the 14.80 was also on a Weilong (V2). From all the cubes I have the Weilong is the one feel the best about taking to a competion. I get my best times with AoLong normally. But they get so slow and gummy after a few thousand solves. Weilongs stay super fast. In fact, I over lube all my weilongs on purpose to slow them down. The best thing about AoLong is that I do not need to turn accurate. Weilongs requires more accurate turning. The Gan III 57 with new core is also very sweet. I did about 200 solves so far and I have had some sub20 Ao12's. But for now I think it is too fast and uncontrollable.. Man, I wish I was as fast as you..

 

[mark49152]

From all the cubes I have the Weilong is the one feel the best about taking to a competion.

Yeah I'm not sure why I've been getting better times on it. I don't like the feel as much as the ShuangRen. I lose control of it sometimes - overshooting, etc. - but maybe it catches less than the SR. It could just be that I've taken another leap in improvement and would be getting the same times on the SR. I've done loads of cross and F2L practice recently and I guess that's paying off.

Is the WL2 any different to the WL1?

 

[MarcelP]

Is the WL2 any different to the WL1?

Yes, the V2 is much more controllable. I have several V1's and I do not like one of them.

I think the cube was holding you back. I would stick with Weilong if I where you

 

[mark49152]

Yes, the V2 is much more controllable. I have several V1's and I do not like one of them.

I think the cube was holding you back. I would stick with Weilong if I where you

I'll get a V2 then. I have a couple of AoLongs with different lube/tensions and they are pretty good too. The ShuangRen has been my main for over a year but its time is over. The stock Moyu stickers are good enough as well, so no messing around with those.

 

[MarcelP]

I'll get a V2 then. I have a couple of AoLongs with different lube/tensions and they are pretty good too. The ShuangRen has been my main for over a year but its time is over. The stock Moyu stickers are good enough as well, so no messing around with those.

You will not regret it. I have 4 V2's (one white, two black and one stickerless (pink)) and they are all great.

 

[mark49152]

You will not regret it. I have 4 V2's (one white, two black and one stickerless (pink)) and they are all great.

AoLong v2 is on sale. Any thoughts on that yet?

 

[MarcelP]

AoLong v2 is on sale. Any thoughts on that yet?

I ordere two of them just to be sure.. LOL

People say cube does not matter untill you reach sub 15. I think that is the biggest crap there is. Especially for the 'fast turn challengd' like you and me. If I swicth to anything different than Weilong, SuLong, AoLong or DianMa I do not get averages below 25 seconds. Only AoLong and Weilong take me to sub 20 averages.

 

[Gordon]

I did an avg of 5 a few days ago with an original rubik's. Just for curiosity. I had one low 26, one complete fail-solve and the three counting ones around 28 - 29 seconds.

The strange thing is that such an average also can happen with my WeiLong and is only around 4 seconds slower than a good avg of 5 for me.

I think I do much more pauses on faster cubes than on slower ones, but on them I turn slower so the times are similar

Thats probably also the reason for my relatively good official times. I was nervous, turned slower and had better lookahead

So I would say that at the moment different cubes have different sympathies for me. And this makes the most difference in times.

 

[MarcelP]

I did an avg of 5 a few days ago with an original rubik's. Just for curiosity. I had one low 26, one complete fail-solve and the three counting ones around 28 - 29 seconds.

The strange thing is that such an average also can happen with my WeiLong and is only around 4 seconds slower than a good avg of 5 for me.

I think I do much more pauses on faster cubes than on slower ones, but on them I turn slower so the times are similar

Thats probably also the reason for my relatively good official times. I was nervous, turned slower and had better lookahead

So I would say that at the moment different cubes have different sympathies for me. And this makes the most difference in times.

I think you should always turn slow if that helps your times Eventually you will speed up since recognition will become faster.

 

[mark49152]

I ordere two of them just to be sure.. LOL

I wish Moyu would sell as DIY, or at least lube their screw spring assemblies.

 

[MarcelP]

I wish Moyu would sell as DIY, or at least lube their screw spring assemblies.

HKNow does clickertheclick (I think the 'Plus' stands for V2, also it is listed under new arrivals.. so..)

 

[mark49152]

HKNow does clickertheclick (I think the 'Plus' stands for V2, also it is listed under new arrivals.. so..)

Have you tried them? I read somewhere that the pieces are already assembled and stickered, as if all they do is unscrew a factory-assembled cube. Is the core brand new and unthreaded?

 

[MarcelP]

Have you tried them? I read somewhere that the pieces are already assembled and stickered, as if all they do is unscrew a factory-assembled cube. Is the core brand new and unthreaded?

Now that you mention it, yes my first AolOng was from HKNow and it was a DIY. The core was allready assembled. I do not like DIY. I like opening a box and get a perfectly tuned cube from it That hardly ever happens, except with GAN III 57 cubes..

 

[MarcelP]

My second (full step) sub 15 in two days:

94. 14.56 F' B2 D F U2 R' B2 R2 F D2 B2 R2 U' D' R2 D B2 L2 F2 U2

x2// inspection Yellow U blue on F
R' U' L2 U' B2 D2 // cross
R' U' R y' U L' U L //1st
R' U R // preserve pair, but concentrate on another pair
R' U R2 U' R' // second, and now do preseverd pair:
U2 L' U' L //3rd
U' R' U' R U2 R' U R //
OLL
PLL

 

[mark49152]

Now that you mention it, yes my first AolOng was from HKNow and it was a DIY. The core was allready assembled. I do not like DIY. I like opening a box and get a perfectly tuned cube from it That hardly ever happens, except with GAN III 57 cubes..

Generally I find Moyu and YJ cubes are very well set up out of the box, except for the annoying spring noise. If it wasn't for the spring noise I would leave them alone. With my last AoLong, I tried to push some lube under the screw head without taking the screws out completely, and it worked OK. I just had to loosen them a few turns.

 

[MarcelP]

With my last AoLong, I tried to push some lube under the screw head without taking the screws out completely, and it worked OK. I
just had to loosen them a few turns.

I always spray a tiny bit silicone spray between screw and plastic and turn screw 360 front and 360 back.. Works like a charm.. No noise on springs any more..

 

[mark49152]

I always spray a tiny bit silicone spray between screw and plastic and turn screw 360 front and 360 back.. Works like a charm.. No noise on springs any more..

Yeah spray would be easier. I only have Traxxas - maybe I should get some spray.

Edit: Got my first sub-5 ao12 cross+1 this morning. 4.83. Definitely improving

 

[MarcelP]

Edit: Got my first sub-5 ao12 cross+1 this morning. 4.83. Definitely improving

Very nice!! What you do is working

The other day when Gordon said when he turned slow he got better times got me thinking again. My times where becomming so bad lately.. Friday night Ao100 23.xx Arghhh Mother.... Cursing at 23/24 solves.. LOL.. Then I figured out what has changed in my solves.. I have been (unintentially) speeding up on TPS.. So I have been trying to slow down again.. And it worked immediatly... Just finished Ao100 21.39 (which is pretty close to PB) with nice last 12 solves:

Spoiler

88. 20.47 F2 L B D2 B' D' F' L' B' D' R2 D2 B2 R' F2 U2 F2 U2 L B2 R2
89. 21.87 D2 F2 R2 D2 L2 D2 F D2 U2 B R B' D L D F' D' R2 D L2
90. 22.70 B U' B' D F' L' U R2 U R2 B' U2 L2 D2 B' R2 F U2 F' D2
91. 19.88 R2 F2 L' D2 R2 B2 L' B2 U2 B2 F L' D B2 U L2 B R F2 D
92. 21.47 D2 U2 F L2 R2 D2 B' F' L2 F2 R D2 B U' L' U2 L' D' L D' L
93. 14.56 F' B2 D F U2 R' B2 R2 F D2 B2 R2 U' D' R2 D B2 L2 F2 U2
94. 18.63 R' F2 R' B2 U2 R2 U2 R2 F2 L B2 U' B' U' R2 D' L D2 R U F'
95. 19.08 F D2 U2 B' D2 F D2 U2 R2 B' F2 U' F D2 R' U2 L' B' D2 L
96. 18.34 U2 L' R2 U2 F2 U2 B2 R' B2 U2 R D' L' B2 R B F2 R' D2 U'
97. 19.40 U' B2 R2 U' R2 D' B2 D B2 R2 D R' U' L F' D B2 R' B2 L2 R'
98. 18.38 B' L2 U2 B R2 D2 F' U2 F' U2 B R' F' L R U' F D' L U2 F'
99. 21.21 L2 F2 R2 U2 R2 U' F2 U L2 D' B2 R' U F' L2 B D R2 B2 U' R'
100. 17.47 L U2 R2 B2 R' B2 L' B2 D2 U2 R B' D2 F' L U' B2 L' B F

When you have 20.xx Ao50 Mark, most of your solves are sub 20 right? That must feel magic? I want to be at that stage.. most of my solves are sup 20, and I compensate with 17's and 16's between 23 - 24 solves..

 

[mark49152]

Nice, yes I find the same. It feels like better composure and focus.

When you have 20.xx Ao50 Mark, most of your solves are sub 20 right? That must feel magic? I want to be at that stage.. most of my solves are sup 20, and I compensate with 17's and 16's between 23 - 24 solves..

My last session was 65 solves average 20.52. That broke down as follows: 15=1, 17=6, 18=6, 19=10, 20=17, 21=12, 22=7, 23=2, sup-23=4.

 

[MarcelP]

Nice, yes I find the same. It feels like better composure and focus.


My last session was 65 solves average 20.52. That broke down as follows: 15=1, 17=6, 18=6, 19=10, 20=17, 21=12, 22=7, 23=2, sup-23=4.

Nice distribution! I bet the 15 must have felt nice. Any close to PB (or was it the 15.34?) is nice