Jul 9, 2014 #1 R Repsela Member Joined Jul 6, 2014 Messages 23 WCA ID 2014PAVE01 Hi Considering this comm: FD (buffer) RB DR what is the optimal and fastest way to solve it?
Jul 9, 2014 #2 Y yoinneroid Veteran Joined May 15, 2010 Messages 723 WCA ID 2010UTOM01 YouTube Visit Channel Repsela said: Hi Considering this comm: FD (buffer) RB DR what is the optimal and fastest way to solve it? Click to expand... What I do: x y' R' U M2 U' R U M2 U' y x' What I wish I would do: B M2 U R2 U' M2 U R2 U' B' What is probably faster: Uw R U' M2 U R U' M2 U R2 Uw'
Repsela said: Hi Considering this comm: FD (buffer) RB DR what is the optimal and fastest way to solve it? Click to expand... What I do: x y' R' U M2 U' R U M2 U' y x' What I wish I would do: B M2 U R2 U' M2 U R2 U' B' What is probably faster: Uw R U' M2 U R U' M2 U R2 Uw'
Jul 9, 2014 #3 T Tao Yu Veteran Joined Jun 29, 2011 Messages 1,172 Location Ireland WCA ID 2012YUTA01 YouTube Visit Channel yoinneroid said: What I do: x y' R' U M2 U' R U M2 U' y x' What I wish I would do: B M2 U R2 U' M2 U R2 U' B' What is probably faster: Uw R U' M2 U R U' M2 U R2 Uw' Click to expand... You're using the buffer DF instead of FD... I would use x y F' R U M' U2 M U R' F y' x' (this is a setup to a 4 move comm)
yoinneroid said: What I do: x y' R' U M2 U' R U M2 U' y x' What I wish I would do: B M2 U R2 U' M2 U R2 U' B' What is probably faster: Uw R U' M2 U R U' M2 U R2 Uw' Click to expand... You're using the buffer DF instead of FD... I would use x y F' R U M' U2 M U R' F y' x' (this is a setup to a 4 move comm)
Jul 9, 2014 #4 Ollie Legend Joined Mar 31, 2012 Messages 2,833 Location London, UK WCA ID 2012FROS01 YouTube Visit Channel yoinneroid said: What I do: x y' R' U M2 U' R U M2 U' y x' What I wish I would do: B M2 U R2 U' M2 U R2 U' B' What is probably faster: Uw R U' M2 U R U' M2 U R2 Uw' Click to expand... FD buffer Optimal is 10 HTM, but the speed-optimal alg is much better and it's only one move extra. Uw R U M' U' R U M U' R2 Uw' edit: ninja'd. And also, in future this should go in the One Answer BLD Question Thread
yoinneroid said: What I do: x y' R' U M2 U' R U M2 U' y x' What I wish I would do: B M2 U R2 U' M2 U R2 U' B' What is probably faster: Uw R U' M2 U R U' M2 U R2 Uw' Click to expand... FD buffer Optimal is 10 HTM, but the speed-optimal alg is much better and it's only one move extra. Uw R U M' U' R U M U' R2 Uw' edit: ninja'd. And also, in future this should go in the One Answer BLD Question Thread
Jul 9, 2014 #5 Nicck Member Joined Sep 3, 2013 Messages 10 Location Boston, MA (USA) YouTube Visit Channel here are some that are optimaler - 9 STM - but not center-safe: [ R' U F' ; F2 E' F2 E ] = R' U F E' F2 E F U' R [ R' B' D' ; D2 S D2 S' ] = R' B' D S D2 S' D B R ... ... conjugated 4-movers, each with an A9 and B9 version (invert last setup turn and 4-mover of A9 version to get B9 version) EDIT: yup. ouch. Last edited: Jul 9, 2014
here are some that are optimaler - 9 STM - but not center-safe: [ R' U F' ; F2 E' F2 E ] = R' U F E' F2 E F U' R [ R' B' D' ; D2 S D2 S' ] = R' B' D S D2 S' D B R ... ... conjugated 4-movers, each with an A9 and B9 version (invert last setup turn and 4-mover of A9 version to get B9 version) EDIT: yup. ouch.
Jul 9, 2014 #6 P Parham Saeednia Regular Joined Jan 13, 2013 Messages 27 Location Tehran WCA ID 2011NIAP01 What i do is : z' x' D' M' U' R U M U' R' U D x z 10 move Last edited: Jul 9, 2014
Jul 9, 2014 #7 Stefan Legend Joined May 7, 2006 Messages 7,286 WCA ID 2003POCH01 YouTube Visit Channel Repsela said: Considering this comm: FD (buffer) RB DR Click to expand... That's not a commutator. That's a case. Commutators are move sequences of a certain type (ABA'B') and they can be used to solve cases.
Repsela said: Considering this comm: FD (buffer) RB DR Click to expand... That's not a commutator. That's a case. Commutators are move sequences of a certain type (ABA'B') and they can be used to solve cases.
Jul 9, 2014 #8 R Repsela Member Joined Jul 6, 2014 Messages 23 WCA ID 2014PAVE01 Ollie said: FD buffer Optimal is 10 HTM, but the speed-optimal alg is much better and it's only one move extra. Uw R U M' U' R U M U' R2 Uw' edit: ninja'd. And also, in future this should go in the One Answer BLD Question Thread Click to expand... Ok thank you
Ollie said: FD buffer Optimal is 10 HTM, but the speed-optimal alg is much better and it's only one move extra. Uw R U M' U' R U M U' R2 Uw' edit: ninja'd. And also, in future this should go in the One Answer BLD Question Thread Click to expand... Ok thank you
Jul 9, 2014 #9 A Leman Veteran Joined Jan 22, 2012 Messages 630 Location New Jersey FD is not my buffer and I don't rotate too often with UF, but this may be worth a try. z'U'rUMU2M'Ur'Uz
FD is not my buffer and I don't rotate too often with UF, but this may be worth a try. z'U'rUMU2M'Ur'Uz