Melbourne Winter 2014 (#ByeAndoComp)

Dene said:
dude wut you have family at the museum and you never mention it? ur holding out on us!
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I didn't know, I said "Nats is at Aus Museum in Sydney so I gotta save some cash" and my Dad mentioned his brother worked there.

Anyway can we have definite 1 round of Skewb at either this or the other comp? Instead of a potential event at Lifestyles. I wouldn't really practise it if it's a "potential event"
 
TimMc said:
AusNats will probably be in Sydney on the 16th and 17th of August at the Australian Museum (if anyone is reading, don't book flights yet until it's officially announced). :-)

Tim.
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any chance of it being the week after? :rolleyes:
ive got school production that weekend :(
 
CJF2L 1 said:
any chance of it being the week after? :rolleyes:
ive got school production that weekend :(
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No chance sorry :(

Tim Major said:
Anyway can we have definite 1 round of Skewb at either this or the other comp? Instead of a potential event at Lifestyles. I wouldn't really practise it if it's a "potential event"
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Well, we can guarantee it'll be at ausnats...
 
Schedule is up. It's going to be a long hard day >.<

Feliks: You are no longer allowed to submit potential schedules :p . What a shocker
 
So based of psych sheets

http://www.speedcubing.com.au/MelbourneWinter2014/wca/

People who haven't competed before, or people over 1:25 will make the second 3x3 round
People who haven't competed before, or people over 30s will make the second 2x2 round
People who average over 10 seconds will make the Pyraminx final

Yet then 5x5 has a cutoff that 9 people will make.
Skewb was omitted.

I'll probably make 5x5 cutoff so I'm not complaining due to that. I just find it ridiculous how stupidly easy we're making it to progress through rounds. Most cubers (who practised a LOT when they started) were sub 1 in a week or 2, yet we're putting sup 1 solvers through to the next round?
 
Tim Major said:
People who haven't competed before, or people over 1:25 will make the second 3x3 round
People who haven't competed before, or people over 30s will make the second 2x2 round
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That's the point :p

5x5 is very time consuming, generally unpopular (only 23 registered, only 13 having competed in it before), and anyone that genuinely practises will make the cutoff. I've been in a situation doing 5x5 with generous cutoffs before, and it takes forever. It's a mistake I'm not making again. In a big one-day competition like this my approach to anything other than our core events (2x2, 3x3, OH, pyra) is to make it only for people that genuinely practise (or are still fast enough to not waste too much time).

On the other hand a lot of people are going to be going out of their way to come to bring their kids to a competition for the first time and we want to encourage them to come back. The more chance they get to compete the better. This is just the reality of Melbourne competitions now - the community is growing with lots of new kids coming in and we want to make it worth their while.

We've held skewb twice this year, with a grand total of 10 people having given it a shot. We'll do it again at ausnats, but unless it builds some popularity it isn't going to be a regularly held event.

Incidentally, we'll probably have more generous cutoffs at Lifestyle Seasons (and probably skewb). I think this competition will become a bit more of a veterans-only kind of event in the future, due to the limited competitor numbers and the fact that experienced cubers will register first.

Overall, if you're a cuber in Australia there will be ample opportunity for everyone to have a turn. But this competition is mostly for the new kids in town. (And of course all the veterans will compete the most still anyway, as we'll all make it through to the next rounds of everything :p ).
 
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I understand your overall point, it is a good one for expanding the community here, but

Dene said:
That's the point :p
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So the point is, people who don't practice at all will make it? I remember when I was new I was comfortably sub 40 in a month or two.

Dene said:
5x5 is very time consuming, generally unpopular (only 23 registered, only 13 having competed in it before), and anyone that genuinely practises will make the cutoff.
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Genuinely practices? Sub 2 is easy for someone who is FAST and genuinely practices. IE, a 12 second 3x3 solver genuinely practicing. I've probably done over 500 5x5 solves in my life, yet I'm not sub 2. 500 solves is multiple days of straight practise. An equivalent amount of time spent practicing 3x3 would get most people sub 30!

I don't know, I like the idea of being nice to new cubers to expand the scene, but that doesn't have to mean pushing them through to second rounds when they haven't practiced much so don't deserve it. The fact that they already always get to complete a 3x3 average, assuming they're sub 10 minutes, is beginner friendly. I mentioned it to my Dad (who would just miss out on the 2nd round here) and he thought it'd be straight up embarassing to be in a 2nd round whilst averaging over a minute.
 
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