Older cubers discussions

[MarcelP]

you are getting too fast! Maybe it is time for "B.O.T.A.#2"

Nah, I need to get faster if I want to beat you . Slowly getting there though. I suspect I might get past you in a year or so.

 

[MarcelP]

Me too. I'm trying to switch to M2 for edges but for some reason can't get my head round it.

I will look into M2 today and see if I understand it.

 

[AmazingCuber]

I will look into M2 today and see if I understand it.

M2 is really good. Check out Noah Arthurs' tutorial on how to solve a Rubik's cube blindfolded part 3 in which he teaches the m2 method.

 

[mark49152]

I will look into M2 today and see if I understand it.

Great. It's the setups for the pieces already in the M layer that I keep messing up.

M2 is really good. Check out Noah Arthurs' tutorial on how to solve a Rubik's cube blindfolded part 3 in which he teaches the m2 method.

Seconded - that is the tutorial I used (Cubing World) and it is good.

 

[MarcelP]

Great. It's the setups for the pieces already in the M layer that I keep messing up.

Ok, I have been playing with M2 for a day and a half now. I understand the concept, I like the execution. But.. I am not going to switch. M2 over OP has the advantage of speed. Well, I am not interested in speed BLD solving just in BLD solving. I have done many OP solves so that it requires no thinking. The M2 has more stuff you need to think about during a solve. Like when shooting to an M layer target, is M layer aligned. And also a new set of algs. I hate learning algs. In OP egdes I use algs like T-perm, J perm, N perm and R perm which are pretty smooth by now. Right now getting successes is my biggest problem. Learning M2 is not going to help me with anything.

 

[mark49152]

That's kinda the way I feel about it too. I just about got the hang of OP edges and thought M2 looked a lot more efficient so maybe I should invest my practice in that, but, it's not as simple as it initially appears.

 

[Gordon]

My entry in weekly competition fo 4x4:

4x4x4: 1:58.02 (1:58.87) 1:56.37 1:57.91 (1:51.44) = 1:57.43 //First sub 2 average and PB single, cube SS

Nice times!
I remeber the time when I was faster than you in 4x4, and now, you're a minute faster and I am still at the same time

Recently I was looking for a Hoya tutorial, and didn't find any in english besides one. What if you would do one. Since you improved that much, I also tried to switch to Hoya, but no improvement here...

Also... what about a cube collection video?

 

[MarcelP]

Nice times!
I remeber the time when I was faster than you in 4x4, and now, you're a minute faster and I am still at the same time

Recently I was looking for a Hoya tutorial, and didn't find any in english besides one. What if you would do one. Since you improved that much, I also tried to switch to Hoya, but no improvement here...

Also... what about a cube collection video?

LOL, my current entry 4X4 was 2:18 or so I believe.. I can be fast, but I have to get lucky for that

Yeah, I can make a HoYa tutorial. HoYa has some nice advantages over Yao. Since I know both I might do a video on that. My collection is far from interessting. Way to many 3X3's.. and only a few other types of cubes.. I could do a 'these are my favorite cubes' video once.

 

[Schmidt]

I could do a 'these are my favorite cubes' video

, but I would have to edit it every two weeks.

 

[ThomasJE]

...Also... what about a cube collection video?

No point. Nobody has two hours to see what cubes a person has.

 

[MarcelP]

1st attempt HoYa explaining:

[video=youtube_share;rOrsDZWHwZ4]http://youtu.be/rOrsDZWHwZ4[/video]

 

[mark49152]

I like the way you call it HoYa with a Y. Makes it sound like a new cube

 

[MarcelP]

I like the way you call it HoYa with a Y. Makes it sound like a new cube

It's my job that makes me write stuff in Camel-case. LOL I never gave it a second thougt, just happend this way.

 

[Nilsibert]

1st attempt HoYa explaining:

[video=youtube_share;rOrsDZWHwZ4]http://youtu.be/rOrsDZWHwZ4[/video]

Awesome, would you mind posting the video in the Hoya thread?

 

[MarcelP]

Awesome, would you mind posting the video in the Hoya thread?

Ok, will do..

Just did an Ao12, I am not fast, but getting there..

Spoiler

Mean: 2:16.12
Average: 2:17.36
Best time: 1:45.67
Median: 2:20.66
Worst time: 2:34.12
Standard deviation: 15.12

Best average of 5: 2:05.40
1-5 - 2:12.32 2:03.15 (1:58.87) 2:00.74 (2:32.62)

Best average of 12: 2:17.36
1-12 - 2:12.32 2:03.15 1:58.87 2:00.74 2:32.62 (2:34.12) 2:27.23 (1:45.67) 2:18.79 2:22.52 2:31.42 2:25.93

1. 2:12.32 F2 Fw2 Uw L Rw' R' U' D2 Rw' B' U Rw2 Uw F2 Fw' Uw2 F2 Rw' R' U' L2 R B2 D R2 U' L' D' L' U' L' R2 Uw Fw2 Rw' R2 Fw R2 Uw2 Rw2
2. 2:03.15 Fw D2 R2 D Rw' Uw' B D Rw2 U' Uw2 L' Rw' Fw Rw Fw' Uw2 D2 Fw' B' R2 D' R F2 Uw F' D2 L' U' B Uw' Fw B L' R' U' F' D R' U'
3. 1:58.87 L Rw U' L' Fw' U D2 Fw' Uw2 F' U' L2 Uw' L2 R2 F D Fw B L' D Fw2 Uw' F U L Rw F Fw L Fw2 D2 L Rw' R D' F' D2 Rw' Uw
4. 2:00.74 U F' Rw' Fw U D' F2 Rw2 Uw' R2 Fw U2 L2 F' R' Fw2 Uw2 D Rw R' Uw2 D' R2 Fw L' Uw' Rw F U' Uw2 B R' U2 D' B' R' Uw' R' B2 Rw2
5. 2:32.62 L R2 F Fw' D2 L' Uw' D F Uw2 F2 L2 D' L2 R2 Fw L' D' Rw B2 R' U Uw2 B' U2 F2 L2 Uw F R2 Fw2 L2 R Fw2 B2 D2 Rw' F2 Uw' R
6. 2:34.12 L2 F' Fw2 B Rw B2 Uw' R' U L' Rw Uw2 Rw2 U Uw' D' F' B Rw' Uw' Fw D Rw2 D B2 Rw F' B' R' F2 B2 D2 F Fw2 L Rw2 Fw' U2 D' Fw2
7. 2:27.23 R2 Fw2 U F2 U' D' L' F2 R F Fw' B L' F Rw2 F Rw2 Fw L2 U2 Uw2 F2 L2 Rw2 U L' R Uw' Rw2 F' L' U' R U' Fw' Rw2 Uw' L' U2 Fw
8. 1:45.67 F' L2 R B Uw F B U' Uw' R Fw2 B2 L' U' B2 Uw B Uw' D' F2 R' F R2 Uw' B2 U' Uw L2 D' F2 U' F2 Uw2 F2 B D' F2 Rw2 F U'
9. 2:18.79 D2 L Rw' F Uw' B2 Rw U2 Fw D R2 F R U2 L2 R B Rw' U2 Fw2 U' Uw2 B D2 L2 Uw' Rw2 F2 L2 F2 Fw Uw2 F Fw' U2 D' Rw' D' F2 Fw
10. 2:22.52 F' B' L B' U' B' U2 Uw' Rw R2 Uw' L2 B' Rw2 Uw B R Uw L' D B' D2 L U2 F' Fw' L' Fw2 U F U' B' R Uw B2 R2 D R' Fw' B'
11. 2:31.42 Uw' Rw' F Rw' R F' L F2 L' U2 D B' L F2 L' D Fw2 D2 Fw B' U2 Rw2 R2 U L2 B' D R F2 Uw F' B D L2 U Uw Fw2 L F' Rw'
12. 2:25.93 F2 U' F' Fw2 B2 D2 L Uw F Uw' B2 R' Fw2 L D2 F' Fw' L2 B2 D2 L' Fw' B2 Rw2 Fw' L2 F' Fw U R' Uw' D B2 L Uw D2 Fw2 D Fw2 Rw'

Solve nr 8 I got the scramble from Geert Bickler. Awesome scramble :

[video=youtube_share;W787zoOqYXo]http://youtu.be/W787zoOqYXo[/video]

 

[MarcelP]

Some average solves from me:

Spoiler

1. 22.39 D2 B2 U' R2 B2 U' L2 U' B2 U B' D L U2 R L' D' U R' L2 U2
2. 21.82 U2 F2 D R2 U2 R2 L2 D' L2 B2 U' R' B F2 U' L2 D F' L U L2
3. 23.49 L2 F2 D' L2 U' F2 U' L2 U R2 U2 R' B2 R' U2 F D U' B' R L' U'
4. 19.60 R2 F2 D R2 B2 D U L2 F2 D R B' U B2 L2 F2 R' F U' F U'
5. 22.00 R2 U' L2 F2 L2 D F2 D' R2 L2 D2 F R B D' B R F2 D2 R2
6. 24.24 U L2 F2 L2 B2 D2 U' R2 U' F2 D2 R' D U F2 R' B F L2 U F'
7. 20.39 D' L2 F2 R2 L2 U F2 L2 U R2 F2 R F' U' F' D' R2 B F' R2 D L'

I need to work on what?

[video=youtube_share;NXBezI7K_1U]http://youtu.be/NXBezI7K_1U[/video]

 

[MarcelP]

I am most often the slowest 2X2 solver in de weekly competition. However, with my new 55 mm ShiShuang I seem to be a bit faster. Here is my entry for the weeklycompetition of this week :

Spoiler

Best average of 5: 8.00
1-5 - 7.99 (10.35) 7.88 8.13 (7.72)

1. 7.99 U' F' U2 R F R U F2 U
2. 10.35 U R' U2 R U2 R F' R2 U2
3. 7.88. R' F' U' R' U R U2 F' R2
4. 8.13 U2 F2 R' F' U R2 F R2 F2
5. 7.72 R F U' F2 R F' R2 F U'

[video=youtube_share;yAaJ2yxKJog]http://youtu.be/yAaJ2yxKJog[/video]

 

[sneaklyfox]

I need to work on what?

I only watched the first 4 solves. Better cross sometimes. Less pauses in F2L. Sometimes you still pause a long time between pairs. Maybe try turning slightly slower but without pause. Force yourself to track the next pair. Faster LL recognition and execution. May need some better fingertricks ie. R perm had too many regrips I think.

 

[mark49152]

Nice solves Marcel!

 

[MarcelP]

I only watched the first 4 solves. Better cross sometimes. Less pauses in F2L. Sometimes you still pause a long time between pairs. Maybe try turning slightly slower but without pause. Force yourself to track the next pair. Faster LL recognition and execution. May need some better fingertricks ie. R perm had too many regrips I think.

I have not worked on cross in a long time. I guess that is maybe the first thing to start working on. Turning slower does indeed give me better lookahead, but unfortunatly it does affect my time making my averages 25 secs. I think I must try to maintain this speed and getter better in spotting the pairs. And yes, my R perm is worthless. Too lazy to learn a new one.. I think start looking for a better one. Thanks.

Nice solves Marcel!

Thanks!