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[MarcelP]

Yeah, my second sub 24 Ao100.. I am getting there.. Last few weeks all my Ao100's have been sub 25.

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Rubik's cube
Nov 30, 2013 9:07:10 AM - 10:36:42 AM

Mean: 23.77
Average: 23.78
Best time: 18.78
Median: 24.10
Worst time: 28.26
Standard deviation: 2.34

Best average of 5: 21.44
82-86 - 20.31 21.10 (26.45) (19.40) 22.90

Best average of 12: 22.93
13-24 - 22.75 22.71 25.53 22.59 21.00 22.43 22.73 (25.98) (19.26) 25.43 24.10 20.04

1. 26.45 F2 L2 D R2 B2 D F2 U' L2 D U B' D2 F' L' F U' B' L2 B' L' U
2. 26.28 L2 D' U2 F2 U' B2 F2 L2 U' L2 U2 B D2 L D' F' U' L' B' R B2 U'
3. 18.87 D' L2 D' F2 D2 R2 U' L2 F2 R2 F2 L U2 R U L F D B2 F L2
4. 24.56 D' L2 U' L2 B2 R2 U R2 U' L2 U2 F' D2 R' F2 D B F2 U2 L B
5. 27.32 L2 B2 L2 U B2 D2 L2 D2 L2 B2 U' B' L2 F U' L D2 R' D2 U' F2
6. 24.46 L2 B2 L2 D2 B2 L2 D' B2 F2 R2 U' B F2 D' B2 F' U' L U B D' U'
7. 23.54 B2 F2 D2 B2 U R2 D F2 D F2 R2 F' R D R' F2 L2 D U2 R B'
8. 23.64 B2 R2 D2 R2 D' L2 D L2 D' F2 U' R' D' U R2 L' D L D B'
9. 28.10 U' F2 L2 U' B2 R2 D' L2 D B2 R2 B R D' R' F2 L U F' R' U'
10. 25.26 U2 L2 D2 L2 F2 D' B2 U2 R2 U B' U F2 R' L' U' B R2 B2 L2
11. 24.23 B2 U B2 R2 U' B2 L2 F2 U' B2 D B' D B F' U L2 B F R F'
12. 21.31 R2 F2 L2 F2 L2 D F2 L2 B' L2 D L B U2 B2 D2 F' R D'
13. 22.75 D' R2 U2 F2 L2 U B2 L2 D' U' L' B' R F' L2 F' D' B F2 U2
14. 22.71 B2 U R2 F2 U2 R2 U' R2 U' F2 D2 F' L' D' U2 B' D2 F' U R' L2
15. 25.53 U' L2 B2 F2 L2 U' L2 D U' R2 U F' R B D' F2 R' L2 U2 B2 R2
16. 22.59 U' B2 R2 L2 U L2 B2 D' R2 D' F2 L U2 L2 F R D' R' U' R2 L U2
17. 21.00 D L2 D' R2 F2 D R2 L2 U2 R2 B2 L F D L2 D R2 L2 F R' D2
18. 22.43 D B2 D R2 B2 D R2 D' F2 L2 U B' D2 F L' D' F2 R U L2 D2 U2
19. 22.73 D' B2 D2 B2 U' F2 R2 F2 U2 L2 U' L' D' F' R' L B R F' U' L'
20. 25.98 R2 D F2 R2 B2 D2 R2 U L2 F2 U2 R' F D2 F2 L B' R2 D R' F' U'
21. 19.26 U' R2 F2 U2 R2 U F2 D' R2 D F2 R' B' R2 U' L' D' R' U' R D' U'
22. 25.43 D F2 D B2 U B2 L2 B2 R2 D R B' R2 D F U2 R' D2 F D2 U'
23. 24.10 U2 R2 B2 D' L2 F2 U2 L2 U' B2 D R D2 U' L' U2 R2 B L2 D' R' D2
24. 20.04 U' F2 U L2 F2 D' R2 U F2 R2 F2 L D B2 L2 F D' U L D' R2 D2
25. 24.11 L2 D2 F2 R2 D' F2 D R2 D F2 U B F' D L' F' L D2 U' F
26. 25.07 R2 B2 R2 U' R2 B2 L2 D F2 U' L' D' R2 U2 F' L2 F' U2 L' U
27. 24.76 U2 L2 U2 L2 B2 D' R2 B2 R2 F2 U' F' D2 L B' L' F D' R D2 B' U'
28. 26.93 R2 U' L2 U F2 U' B2 U' B2 L2 B2 R' D2 B' D' B2 F' R2 B' U' L U'
29. 22.03 D B2 L2 D2 L2 D F2 L2 U' R2 B2 R F L2 D L' B2 F D L' D2 U2
30. 23.51 L2 B2 D F2 U B2 F2 U2 B2 D2 U' R' U2 R F D B' D' B2 L' B' U'
31. 22.59 D2 R2 F2 D' R2 F2 D F2 R2 U' B2 L' B' U' F2 U2 B R' U' F L2 U'
32. 24.90 L2 F2 D2 L2 D F2 D L2 U L2 U2 F' B2 R' D L2 D' F U R'
33. 19.98 U' B2 F2 U R2 D' R2 U L2 D U B' D B' R' U' B2 F' R U' R U'
34. 20.26 U' L2 D' F2 D' R2 F2 U' R2 U L2 B R' U L B2 R' U2 B D L2 D2
35. 27.07 U R2 U B2 F2 D L2 D' B2 U B2 L D2 F' D B D' L' U' B2 R
36. 24.12 L2 D' R2 D' R2 B2 F2 D B2 D U F L B L' F2 L U' R' B2 R
37. 22.25 L2 B2 L2 D' F2 U L2 F2 L2 F2 D F L' F' U' L' B' D2 B' R L D'
38. 22.11 R2 D' L2 D' R2 D B2 R2 D2 R2 U' L D B2 U F D2 R U' L U'
39. 22.70 R2 B2 L2 U B2 U B2 U' B2 R2 L2 B' L' U2 R F2 D' L B2 F D' U'
40. 25.51 U B2 R2 D R2 F2 D R2 B2 D' U' R F' D2 L D B' L' U2 F2 L U2
41. 25.42 B2 D R2 U' B2 F2 R2 D2 U' B2 L2 B R' F2 U' F' D L D2 R B U'
42. 27.92 L2 U R2 B2 D2 B2 L2 U2 R2 U B2 L B' R2 D' L' D U2 R U' F'
43. 22.54 L2 B2 D' B2 D' R2 U2 R2 L2 B2 U2 B D' F R L2 B2 L' F L2 D2 U'
44. 21.93 U' L2 U' F2 D2 B2 L2 D2 L2 U2 L2 F R D2 F D' R2 B R2 L2 F
45. 24.64 U2 L2 F2 R2 U2 L2 D' R2 L2 U R2 B' R F U R' L D' F2 U' F' U2
46. 27.53 U R2 D B2 L2 B2 D' F2 U B2 R B2 F D' B2 D R2 D U2 F' D'
47. 26.01 U F2 R2 F2 D L2 D F2 U' B2 D2 L' U B' U F2 D U' F' R2 U L'
48. 22.93 B2 R2 B2 L2 F2 D' R2 U2 F2 R2 D2 R' B' R U2 R' L' U' L2 F' L2
49. 21.09 R2 U2 L2 U' F2 R2 D' B2 R2 L2 D F L2 U' R D L' F2 D2 L2 F' U'
50. 26.51 D2 R2 F2 L2 F2 D U B2 D' B2 L B2 R' F2 D2 F' D' U' F D
51. 24.45 L2 D' B2 D L2 U B2 F2 D F2 L2 F U B2 R2 F2 R U' F R2 B D
52. 22.84 F2 R2 D' U2 B2 L2 U' B2 L2 D' B2 L R2 D' L2 U' B U R2 F D
53. 25.07 U2 F2 L2 D' F2 L2 U R2 D' B2 D' F' R B' U' R D R2 F L2 B'
54. 27.39 L2 B2 D' U2 B2 F2 U' L2 D U B2 L B' D2 R B' L2 U' B2 F'
55. 22.50 F2 R2 F2 U F2 U F2 U L2 F2 R2 B R D L U' R2 U' L' B' L2 U
56. 26.71 R2 B2 L2 F2 L2 U2 L2 D' B2 L2 D' L F R D2 U' R' B' L' F' R
57. 22.87 F2 U' B2 U' F2 D R2 B2 R2 F2 U' B' F D B F D L F R D' U'
58. 19.85 L2 D L2 U R2 B2 U' B2 U2 F' R' D2 L2 F2 U2 F D' B D
59. 25.00 R2 D2 B2 D R2 U R2 U L2 D F2 L' F R2 B' D2 L2 U R D' L
60. 25.06 U' F2 R2 L2 D F2 U F2 D F2 U' B R B2 R' D B L2 F U2
61. 23.84 U2 R2 U' F2 D' R2 U2 F2 R2 D2 F2 R' L2 B R2 U' F2 R2 F' D' L
62. 22.53 R2 U2 F2 U' B2 L2 U2 R2 D R2 F R2 B' D L' D B' D2 B D2
63. 22.00 L2 U2 F2 D' F2 U2 R2 D' F2 U' L2 F B2 R' D2 R' B F R' B D' U'
64. 26.84 D2 B2 D2 B2 U L2 D L2 F2 R2 L2 B' R' B R2 U' R L2 B' U F2 L'
65. 20.50 U2 F2 D2 L2 F2 L2 U L2 U F2 U R' B D U' F L F2 L2 D2 F2 U'
66. 25.46 R2 B2 U B2 U2 R2 B2 F2 U' L2 U' L' B U2 R L B' R B' U' B2
67. 18.78 D2 R2 U F2 L2 D F2 D' R2 D' R' L' B2 U' L2 B' R2 L B F
68. 22.42 R2 D2 R2 L2 F2 D2 U R2 U B2 U' B U F D B2 L2 U2 R D2 U' L'
69. 23.71 B2 L2 D R2 D' B2 L2 U R2 L2 D2 B L2 U' R U F U F2 D' L' B'
70. 22.39 D' R2 B2 U' B2 R2 F2 L2 D2 F2 U' F' L F2 U2 F L2 U' B' D' R'
71. 25.31 U' R2 B2 L2 B2 D' F2 D' U R2 B2 R' D2 U' F D' B' U' R U2 R2 U2
72. 23.62 D' B2 R2 L2 U2 L2 U' L2 U' F2 R' B' F2 L2 U' R' B L U' R2
73. 28.26 D' B2 F2 U2 R2 F2 D' L2 U' B2 U R' F' L D' B2 L2 F' D R2 L
74. 24.21 L2 F2 D2 U' R2 B2 U2 R2 U' B2 D2 F U L F' U2 F U' R D R'
75. 24.93 U2 L2 F2 D2 F2 D L2 D' R2 B2 U2 R L' F' R D' B' R L U2 R U'
76. 19.21 B2 F2 R2 D B2 D2 U2 R2 D F2 U' R L B2 F' D' B2 L' U F' D' U'
77. 26.32 D' F2 D R2 B2 U' L2 F2 D F2 U' F' U' L D2 B' D R F' L'
78. 23.71 L2 U F2 L2 D' R2 D' R2 U' F2 U B D B' D L' U' F' D' R B
79. 25.93 R2 F2 L2 B2 D' L2 U2 L2 B2 R2 U R D F R' B F' D L D2 R' D
80. 25.86 F2 U2 R2 L2 U L2 U F2 U' R2 U2 L' U R D' L F' L2 D F L'
81. 24.51 D' L2 D' L2 D' B2 L2 F2 R2 D F D R' U' R' U' R' F'
82. 20.31 D2 R2 B2 D F2 U' R2 U2 R2 F2 L2 F' L B2 D R2 B F D2 F' L2
83. 21.10 R2 U B2 U' R2 D' R2 D2 U' R2 B' U L' D' U' L' F' L' F2 R' B'
84. 26.45 F2 D F2 R2 D2 B2 D B2 U L2 D2 B D R D2 R2 D' B2 D F2 D'
85. 19.40 R2 D' U' F2 R2 D B2 F2 L2 U L2 F L B' F D R' F2 D' B2 U
86. 22.90 F2 U L2 U' F2 U2 R2 D' R2 B2 U' B' R D2 F U R D2 L' D B' D
87. 28.25 F2 D' F2 D F2 U B2 D L2 D2 F' L' F2 R B D2 F' R' D F U'
88. 21.54 D' L2 D' B2 R2 B2 U B2 L2 D' L2 F R L2 U L2 U L B' D2 U
89. 24.09 B2 L2 D U2 F2 D2 U' B2 U' B2 U' F' L' B' D U' R D F' U L2 U'
90. 25.60 R2 F2 D B2 L2 U B2 R2 D' U2 F2 R U2 L' F D' R2 D' U' R2 F' R2
91. 20.71 B2 R2 B2 F2 D L2 F2 D2 U B2 F2 R' B F D L' D2 U F2 U' L2
92. 23.65 B2 U R2 U2 B2 D' L2 U R2 B2 U' F D' U2 R' F' L2 B L' D B2
93. 25.06 D2 R2 L2 F2 R2 D2 L2 U R2 D F' R' B2 R U2 B F' L' D2 U2
94. 24.14 D' B2 F2 L2 U' F2 U R2 B2 U2 L' B' D' B F' R B' F2 R' F2 U'
95. 19.03 U' F2 U' R2 L2 D' L2 D2 F2 U' F2 R' D2 F' L' D U2 B D2 R2 B L2
96. 25.89 R2 F2 D' L2 F2 D' F2 R2 U2 B2 R F U F2 L' D2 B' D2 B2 D' U'
97. 24.59 L2 U2 R2 U L2 F2 D2 R2 U' R2 D R' B2 R' D L' F D B2 F2 D
98. 22.50 U B2 D B2 D' F2 U2 B2 F2 R2 U' R' F2 L D2 B' D2 U B R2 B'
99. 25.34 B2 R2 D' F2 U2 B2 U' B2 L2 F2 L D2 R U2 F R' D' B U R D
100. 21.64 D' L2 F2 R2 D2 B2 D' L2 D B2 L2 F' R B F' R' F2 R2 F D L' U2

EDIT: Cube original color ChiLong

 

[sneaklyfox]

Yeah, check the weekly contest. I even did 5x5 on a competition. The cutoff was 4 minutes and I got a 6.xx. So I got a DNF. So I decided not to do 5x5 at competion again because I don't like the dissapointment of DNF. I like solving 5x5 and average 6 minutes now. Did you get your cubes already?

Ok, cool that you do. So I ordered a SS 5x5 from TheCubicle and maybe it will get here before my Weisu haha. No, my cubes aren't here yet but I will let you know when they do! Like my sad 4x4, I also have a sad 5x5 though it's a little less locky, but you have to be 99% accurate before it will turn. I'm not bothering to lube it since I am waiting on the SS. I started practicing for about two days now (a few solves here and there). Yesterday I learned about 2 parity algs (along with the two from 4x4) so I think I can at least solve every case now. I've timed myself about 4 times or something and mostly got 6-7 minutes so I am slow, haha! So I guess you are faster than me... for now. Do you use reduction or Yau? And do you do this "freeslice" business? So far I kind of tried both methods and like Yau better because of look ahead and I am trying my own weird edge "pairing" method as well because I don't like doing stuff all over the cube but I like it more methodical and much easier on look ahead. What do people use for edge pairing on 5x5? I've seen a couple tutorials on youtube but haven't seen one that does it like the way I do it.

 

[kcl]

Ok, cool that you do. So I ordered a SS 5x5 from TheCubicle and maybe it will get here before my Weisu haha. No, my cubes aren't here yet but I will let you know when they do! Like my sad 4x4, I also have a sad 5x5 though it's a little less locky, but you have to be 99% accurate before it will turn. I'm not bothering to lube it since I am waiting on the SS. I started practicing for about two days now (a few solves here and there). Yesterday I learned about 2 parity algs (along with the two from 4x4) so I think I can at least solve every case now. I've timed myself about 4 times or something and mostly got 6-7 minutes so I am slow, haha! So I guess you are faster than me... for now. Do you use reduction or Yau? And do you do this "freeslice" business? So far I kind of tried both methods and like Yau better because of look ahead and I am trying my own weird edge "pairing" method as well because I don't like doing stuff all over the cube but I like it more methodical and much easier on look ahead. What do people use for edge pairing on 5x5? I've seen a couple tutorials on youtube but haven't seen one that does it like the way I do it.

Redux with free slice is the way to go. I'm not fast but I could make a video on the "proper" way to edge pair if you'd like!

 

[sneaklyfox]

Redux with free slice is the way to go. I'm not fast but I could make a video on the "proper" way to edge pair if you'd like!

Sure! That would be awesome!

 

[MarcelP]

Redux with free slice is the way to go. I'm not fast but I could make a video on the "proper" way to edge pair if you'd like!

Yes!! I use reduction on 5X5 with no method for edge pairing. That would be awesome.

 

[kcl]

Yes!! I use reduction on 5X5 with no method for edge pairing. That would be awesome.

Alright, I'll try to do it tomorrow.

 

[mark49152]

Convinsa has a video on freeslice on Cubing World. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwAwT_0oCd4

 

[kcl]

Convinsa has a video on freeslice on Cubing World. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwAwT_0oCd4

Wat

l didn't even know about that lol

 

[sneaklyfox]

Wat

l didn't even know about that lol

Ok, I guess you won't be making a video then. That's ok. I think I got freeslice. I'm going to have to try some more when my SS comes in because right now my sad 5x5 is so slow. However, even on my sad cube, I am faster using Yau5 and my own edge pairing "method". I really do it Yau style but slightly modified. I do two... (are they called "dedges" or something?) and put them in the back so the look ahead is quite simply. Then I just slice and do it like Yau back and forth in the FR and FL places but in such a way that I only need to look for the center edge piece. This makes look ahead really easy because there are basically only 6 specific spots to look for pieces instead of all 3 pieces in one dedge. Forgive me if my terminology is all wrong. I'm still noobish at 5x5 and have a PB at something like 4:30. I don't think my centers are much worse with Yau than with redux either. Anyway, I will practice both redux with freeslice and Yau5 when my SS arrives and then I'll see what happens.

 

[MarcelP]

Convinsa has a video on freeslice on Cubing World. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwAwT_0oCd4

Ah thanks. Besided SneaklyFox is Convinsa my favorit speedgirl.. I will look at this video later (to busy for cubing right now )

 

[sneaklyfox]

I just got my Sulong and Chilong! The Weisu is going to come separately so still waiting for that. But always fun to get new cubes to play with anyway! Out of the box, I like the Sulong better. But right now my Chilong definitely has tighter tensions and it feels a bit on the dry side. We'll see what breaking and and lube will do to both these cubes. I don't think I need to change the Sulong much. It's quite nice. I even like the stock stickers. I actually like the orange... some people say it's weird but I like it fine. Great deal for $1!!! Actually the Sulong is like my Fangshi but a bit quieter and a bit more turn resistance.

 

[MarcelP]

Yeah, SuLong is great! I love the stickers too. I received my Black ChiLong yesterday. I replaced the stickers with Cubicle full brights. My favorite colors. I think that will be my new main. I took some tensioning and lubing to become nice though..

 

[Jander Clerix]

Hey did your shengshou v6 arrive already well if its is a v6?

 

[MarcelP]

Hey did your shengshou v6 arrive already well if its is a v6?

No, not yet. In fact I think the trackingnr has not even come alive. I have sent the seller an message asking if it is indeed a SS V6. I got a reply saying it really is a SS V6.

 

[MarcelP]

The only practice I did this week is one Ao100 (more or less) and had a nice sub 24. Today I did another one and broke my Mo3, Ao5 and Ao12:

 

[Schmidt]

Nice! You now have faster single and ao5, but not ao12. Again, I should start to practise!

 

[MarcelP]

Nice! You now have faster single and ao5, but not ao12. Again, I should start to practise!

..My goal to get same averages as Schmidt.. Check!

LOL... I continued the session to Ao200 and got under 23 seconds..

 

[mark49152]

After a month of intensive F2L and lookahead practice I did my first session of timed full solves last night and smashed all my PB averages by over 3 seconds. Ao50 down from 31.77 to 28.60, ao12 from 29.88 to 26.35 and ao5 from 27.95 to 23.03. Man, I can strongly recommend targeted practice!

 

[MarcelP]

After a month of intensive F2L and lookahead practice I did my first session of timed full solves last night and smashed all my PB averages by over 3 seconds. Ao50 down from 31.77 to 28.60, ao12 from 29.88 to 26.35 and ao5 from 27.95 to 23.03. Man, I can strongly recommend targeted practice!

Nice Mark!! That is some goog stuff. Now we are (almost) about in the same league What cube did you use?

 

[mark49152]

Nice Mark!! That is some goog stuff. Now we are (almost) about in the same league What cube did you use?

Fangshi v2. My F2L practice regime was...

• 10 solves (pairs only) solving each pair with eyes closed, with as fast TPS as possible;
• 10 solves (pairs only) stopping before each insert to find the next pair; then insert and setup next pair with as fast TPS as possible (eyes open);
• 10 solves (pairs only) solving each pair with eyes closed and mentally tracking corner of next pair;
• 10 solves (pairs only) solving each pair with eyes closed and mentally tracking corner and edge of next pair (hard!);
• 10 solves (pairs only) going slow and looking ahead, trying to achieve continuous smooth movement and never look at pieces being solved.

Sometimes I'd do 20 or more of each of course, time permitting. Next target is cross and cross-F2L transition