MoYu WeiSu 4x4x4 Speed Cube (10 Testers Selected!)

[yoinneroid]

yay I don't get it

 

[hkpnkp]

WHO THE HELL IS DAN FAST !

 

[Michael Womack]

WHO THE HELL IS DAN FAST !

Dan fast is crazybadcuber

 

[Hyprul 9-ty2]

Keep in mind that these people were probably chosen with YouTube views in mind. They'd be able to draw in more orders with favourable reviews; I'm assuming most of them are well known YT cubers.

 

[ThomasJE]

Keep in mind that these people were probably chosen with YouTube views in mind. They'd be able to draw in more orders with favourable reviews; I'm assuming most of them are well known YT cubers.

I believe it's 5 people hand picked by calvin and 5 random picks.

 

[yoinneroid]

Keep in mind that these people were probably chosen with YouTube views in mind. They'd be able to draw in more orders with favourable reviews; I'm assuming most of them are well known YT cubers.

Wu Yi Fan does not fit that description though
But then, I don't exactly got a problem if CBC went random for that last one

 

[sellingseals]

We should all be thankful to Calvin for giving us the opportunity to get free stuff like this, not bickering about who got what and who picked it. CBC seems to have worked with Calvin for a long time now, and CBC get's all the new stuff early to show on his channel, and continues to get it, so he obviously is making Calvin happy with what he's been doing. Obviously Clavin would give trust in CBC to make the right decision based on advertisement and sales, and it seems people just complain about it. I bet if he picked all the people you people would want him to pick you'd still complain. I haven't been on this site for very long, and I've seen a lot of good, and a lot of bad. A lot of humble opinions, and a lot of gang mentality.

 

[Hyprul 9-ty2]

I believe it's 5 people hand picked by calvin and 5 random picks.

Oh, nevermind then

Wu Yi Fan does not fit that description though
But then, I don't exactly got a problem if CBC went random for that last one

Hey, he's fast, and he'd probably draw in Chinese customers. I'm assuming he'd upload his review to youku as well.

 

[cubizh]

We should all be thankful to Calvin for giving us the opportunity to get free stuff like this

Absolutely. Don't look a gift horse(cube) in the mouth.

(...) not bickering about who got what and who picked it. CBC seems to have worked with Calvin for a long time now, and CBC get's all the new stuff early to show on his channel, and continues to get it, so he obviously is making Calvin happy with what he's been doing. Obviously Clavin would give trust in CBC to make the right decision based on advertisement and sales, and it seems people just complain about it. I bet if he picked all the people you people would want him to pick you'd still complain.

Agreed again, it's Calvin's free choice.
But I think, in the end, serious competitors that wanted to test were doing it not to just get a freebie but to actually help Calvin to get the best possible feedback for a puzzle, be it great or terrible. All future buyers of the cube seriously want a) A true oppinion about the product to make up their minds and decide; b) given by the most qualified person to do so; c) in the most appealing way possible.
I can't seem to understand the reasoning (other than being random/oversight/...) to achieve a profitable business decision to not test a product designed specifically for speed by (one of) the best in the world in the specified category. There's not a lot of better people to make a real 2x2 cube analysis than Christopher Olson. If the cube is good it's a powerful endorsement. If the cube is terrible, it wouldn't get many more sales after the first wave anyway and it would at least have suggestions for improvement towards speed.
If a new professional racquet was going to be released in the market, and Novak Djokovic or Rafael Nadal offered to test it, would you pass on one of them and prefer it to be tested by Axel Michon (random 284th in the world - no offense)?
If there is a valid reason (business wise or some other) for this, I will very much like to know.
There are, of course, other reasons that could be called, like being a contest chosen in a specific way or some other criteria not guided towards achieving the best feedback, which can also be understandable, to achieve promotional visibility, but hardly they hold as best for business in the long run.
I believe this is the only issue most people claim about.
In the end, people just want to get the best most detailed and sound information possible in the end, hopefully helping to develop better products in the future and not go to buy a pig in a poke.

I haven't been on this site for very long, and I've seen a lot of good, and a lot of bad. A lot of humble opinions, and a lot of gang mentality.

Again I agree with you there, but I guess it's the same proportion as regular society, in the general age range of users of this forum.

 

[sellingseals]

Absolutely. Don't look a gift horse(cube) in the mouth.

Agreed again, it's Calvin's free choice.
But I think, in the end, serious competitors that wanted to test were doing it not to just get a freebie but to actually help Calvin to get the best possible feedback for a puzzle, be it great or terrible. All future buyers of the cube seriously want a) A true oppinion about the product to make up their minds and decide; b) given by the most qualified person to do so; c) in the most appealing way possible.
I can't seem to understand the reasoning (other than being random/oversight/...) to achieve a profitable business decision to not test a product designed specifically for speed by (one of) the best in the world in the specified category. There's not a lot of better people to make a real 2x2 cube analysis than Christopher Olson. If the cube is good it's a powerful endorsement. If the cube is terrible, it wouldn't get many more sales after the first wave anyway and it would at least have suggestions for improvement towards speed.
If a new professional racquet was going to be released in the market, and Novak Djokovic or Rafael Nadal offered to test it, would you pass on one of them and prefer it to be tested by Axel Michon (random 284th in the world - no offense)?
If there is a valid reason (business wise or some other) for this, I will very much like to know.
There are, of course, other reasons that could be called, like being a contest chosen in a specific way or some other criteria not guided towards achieving the best feedback, which can also be understandable, to achieve promotional visibility, but hardly they hold as best for business in the long run.
I believe this is the only issue most people claim about.
In the end, people just want to get the best most detailed and sound information possible in the end, hopefully helping to develop better products in the future and not go to buy a pig in a poke.

Again I agree with you there, but I guess it's the same proportion as regular society, in the general age range of users of this forum.

Thanks for the response. Appreciated. Whatever the reason is that Christopher Olson wasn't picked for the 2x2 I guess doesn't matter now. I'm sure Christopher will get one of these puzzles and review it anyway. I don't think he will only make reviews on free cubes right? So people will still get what they want. Maybe CBC didn't see his entry for some reason, like went to skip a page and skipped two by accident, who knows. He still picked a lot of well respected fast people as well. I've seen a lot of hate go his way for that, and people have not (from what I've seen) even bothered to ask him before ganging up on him. Like you said though, this forum has a general age range and we can only expect so much. Either way, I think it's great that CBC got to pick the winners and not everybody hates or dislikes this man, and some were probably honoured to have been picked by him.

 

[yockee]

The reason CBC picked who he picked (for those asking), is based not only on who is fast and can make a you tube review, but a mix of fast people who have well known you tube channels and can advertize it to a wide audience, and maybe not so fast people but people he knows will be able to get the word spread. Its always going to seem unfair no matter who gets picked, because there's always someone else more qualified for one reason or another. A lot of the reason some of the very fast people don't get picked on these things is probably because they are already planning to send that person the cube, despite the results of this, although this wasn't true for Chris and the 2x2.
While Chris may not be a 4x4 guy, maybe the reason he was picked for the 4x4 was because they are trying to make it up to him for not picking him for the 2x2. People like Mitch, Collin, Antoine, and Kevin (who is fast anyway), all have very well known You Tube channels and will be able to show the cube to thousands of people. While I am not super fast and don't have thousands of you tube subs like the others, I am faster than some of the people with more well known channels and still have a fairly well known channel myself, and the people that do watch my videos or talk to me on Facebook, know that I have a very high attention to detail and have a trusted opinion when it comes to cube hardware and whether or not cubes are decent / why cubes are or aren't good.
I can't really say anything about the other people on the list as I don't know them (other than Rowe who is also really fast), but I'm sure they had their reasons for picking them (maybe to reach a foreign crowd, etc).

 

[cubizh]

The reason CBC picked who he picked (for those asking), is based not only on who is fast and can make a you tube review, but a mix of fast people who have well known you tube channels and can advertize it to a wide audience, and maybe not so fast people but people he knows will be able to get the word spread. Its always going to seem unfair no matter who gets picked, because there's always someone else more qualified for one reason or another. A lot of the reason some of the very fast people don't get picked on these things is probably because they are already planning to send that person the cube, despite the results of this, although this wasn't true for Chris and the 2x2.
While Chris may not be a 4x4 guy, maybe the reason he was picked for the 4x4 was because they are trying to make it up to him for not picking him for the 2x2. People like Mitch, Collin, Antoine, and Kevin (who is fast anyway), all have very well known You Tube channels and will be able to show the cube to thousands of people. While I am not super fast and don't have thousands of you tube subs like the others, I am faster than some of the people with more well known channels and still have a fairly well known channel myself, and the people that do watch my videos or talk to me on Facebook, know that I have a very high attention to detail and have a trusted opinion when it comes to cube hardware and whether or not cubes are decent / why cubes are or aren't good.
I can't really say anything about the other people on the list as I don't know them (other than Rowe who is also really fast), but I'm sure they had their reasons for picking them (maybe to reach a foreign crowd, etc).

I don't automatically disagree with the choices made just because they were done by someone in particular.
I actually completely agree with and understand most of them. Not everyone can be chosen regardless of the method used. I was just pointing out the (obvious?) tremendous oversight.
I look forward for your review. You have a lot of experience handling all kinds of speedcubes from different brands for years now and your reviews are helpful in this particular purpose.

 

[yockee]

I don't automatically disagree with the choices made just because they were done by someone in particular.
I actually completely agree with and understand most of them. Not everyone can be chosen regardless of the method used. I was just pointing out the (obvious?) tremendous oversight.
I look forward for your review. You have a lot of experience handling all kinds of speedcubes from different brands for years now and your reviews are helpful in this particular purpose.

Thanks man, I'll have it posted, ASAP. I'm really curious about how this cube is going to be.

 

[Rubiks560]

Not that I'm complaining (especially because I needed a new 4x4)
But I seriously better not have gotten picked because I didn't get picked for the 2x2.

 

[jdbryant]

And of all people to not get picked for 2x2 testing/review...

 

[sellingseals]

And of all people to not get picked for 2x2 testing/review...

I'm new on this site, and I have to ask... why do people complain so much about this kind of thing? The more and more I read around, the more pointless bickering I see about mindless details of things completely out of their control. People poking jabs at pretty much whoever they can, for any reason they can. It's very discouraging to try and be part of a community when a lot of what you see is this kind of thing.

 

[yockee]

Not that I'm complaining (especially because I needed a new 4x4)
But I seriously better not have gotten picked because I didn't get picked for the 2x2.

Chris, don't take what I said as me hinting at any inside knowledge, I honestly have no idea. I wasn't saying that was or wasn't the reason and don't know anything about it. I wasn't told any info about the selection.

 

[kcl]

I'm new on this site, and I have to ask... why do people complain so much about this kind of thing? The more and more I read around, the more pointless bickering I see about mindless details of things completely out of their control. People poking jabs at pretty much whoever they can, for any reason they can. It's very discouraging to try and be part of a community when a lot of what you see is this kind of thing.

That's what I thought at first. Then I realized why they got so aggravated at stuff when it started happening to me.. You'll get used to it.

 

[sellingseals]

That's what I thought at first. Then I realized why they got so aggravated at stuff when it started happening to me.. You'll get used to it.

Started happening to you? It only affects you if you allow it to affect you, whatever it is that is affecting you. You are the only person that controls how you react, or how aggravated you get. When people get mad, it's because they are letting something bother them, it's not somebody else's fault when you or I or anybody decides to get mad, or react a certain way. We don't have to react that way, we just choose to, and it's our own faults. I'm guilty of this from time to time, feeling something and blaming others, but when I actually realize what's going on, things just don't bother me anymore. Somebody wants to try and tick me off? Ok, I don't have to get mad, I'll just sit back and be where I was before that person came along and let that person make themselves look like a fool trying. What I'm seeing more and more here, is people blaming everything but themselves for being annoyed or pissed off. It's nobody's fault but their own. I'm told this site is full of younger people, and I'm an older(ish) person, so I understand we're not all the same. Get used to it? No thanks, I'll sit back and watch people until it get's to be too much and I leave. Every person that get's involved in the negativity is contributing to it, and they are all mad at it for some reason without looking at where the majority is coming from.

 

[Rnewms]

Started happening to you? It only affects you if you allow it to affect you, whatever it is that is affecting you. You are the only person that controls how you react, or how aggravated you get. When people get mad, it's because they are letting something bother them, it's not somebody else's fault when you or I or anybody decides to get mad, or react a certain way. We don't have to react that way, we just choose to, and it's our own faults. I'm guilty of this from time to time, feeling something and blaming others, but when I actually realize what's going on, things just don't bother me anymore. Somebody wants to try and tick me off? Ok, I don't have to get mad, I'll just sit back and be where I was before that person came along and let that person make themselves look like a fool trying. What I'm seeing more and more here, is people blaming everything but themselves for being annoyed or pissed off. It's nobody's fault but their own. I'm told this site is full of younger people, and I'm an older(ish) person, so I understand we're not all the same. Get used to it? No thanks, I'll sit back and watch people until it get's to be too much and I leave. Every person that get's involved in the negativity is contributing to it, and they are all mad at it for some reason without looking at where the majority is coming from.

Human nature. You can't teach tolerance to everybody, and this site has plenty of "older people;" they contribute to the discussion when they feel it is necessary. This is also has nothing to do with the MoYu WeiSu, so try to keep these thoughts in your head or share them elsewhere.