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sneaklyfox said:
Sub-18 and no reaction? The sad thing about getting better at cubing is that there is less and less opportunity for an "impressive" solve. I remember a time when I would have whooped for a 17.85 solve.
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Imagine how faz feels:

"Oh, another sub 8. Not bad, but not brilliant."

I'm usually very happy to even get a sub 19 solve. (Though that's because I don't see myself breaking my pb single any time soon.)
 
Hey Marcel, what are you working on nowadays? OH? 3BLD? Guess what? I just did my first timed BLD solve ever and fortunately it was success! I'm so slow though you're a lot faster than me. 7:46.91 But no matter the slow time, a success is still :cool::tu:D
 
Video or it did not happen.. LOL.. No seriously that is awesome. I think my times range depending on no parity plus no extra cycles from 4 - 5 minutes to solves with parity and breaking into new cycles of at least 10 minutes.

Lately I have not done any BLD at all. Except weekly competition. I have been focussing on 3X3 expert F2L cases, OH and 4 X 4. I have improved quite a bit on 4 X 4 and I am getting closer to being sub 2 ;)
 
MarcelP said:
Video or it did not happen.. LOL.. No seriously that is awesome. I think my times range depending on no parity plus no extra cycles from 4 - 5 minutes to solves with parity and breaking into new cycles of at least 10 minutes.

Lately I have not done any BLD at all. Except weekly competition. I have been focussing on 3X3 expert F2L cases, OH and 4 X 4. I have improved quite a bit on 4 X 4 and I am getting closer to being sub 2 ;)
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Haha, thanks. No video. Actually sometimes I was interrupted by my husband and had light conversation while I was doing the memo/solve. I was never into BLD at all and found it rather boring personally but now suddenly I'm more motivated to learn and practice it so when I feel the inclination I will do it. Maybe also I didn't really bother practicing before and so the thought of memorizing the whole cube (and still had to figure out what letter each sticker was and how to even do setup moves) was too daunting. It would take me like 20 minutes to memorize a cube and solve it or something and to have used all that time and get a failure seemed like a big waste of time. It was easier to practice when I took it in small steps. Like, I'm not bad with my edges and audio memo now. I haven't practiced much corners yet by comparison. I am trying PAO for corners (Person/Action/Object) and sometimes it's taking me a long time to come up with good words.

I'm not into 4x4 yet. I don't want to have to mod my cubes but I want an awesome cube so I'm waiting for them to mass produce pre-Florian/Konsta modded cubes. I know SS doesn't require these mods and they are good enough without but I know it will be much better with the mod so... I'm still waiting. You will be faster than me at 4x4. Are you using Yau or something else? When I did a little bit 4x4 I hadn't decided what method to use but I was doing some 32223.
 
Yeah, I use Yau, and in the weekly comp from this week (40) I just broke Average PB with 2.14. MoYu has a 4 X 4 comming. It's on pre sale at HKNowstore and Calvin has a small video op with corner cutting. It looks like it cuts as much as a 3 X 3 cube which is no 4 X 4 of mine can do ;) I have not ordered it yet. I am waiting reviews on this one. It's 21 dollar pre order. So not cheap. I think it will be worth it though..
 
MarcelP said:
Yeah, I use Yau, and in the weekly comp from this week (40) I just broke Average PB with 2.14. MoYu has a 4 X 4 comming. It's on pre sale at HKNowstore and Calvin has a small video op with corner cutting. It looks like it cuts as much as a 3 X 3 cube which is no 4 X 4 of mine can do ;) I have not ordered it yet. I am waiting reviews on this one. It's 21 dollar pre order. So not cheap. I think it will be worth it though..
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Oh yeah, I saw the MoYu 4x4. It looks pretty good. It's gotten me practicing 4x4 again.
Though my main focus will soon be square-1. (Once I get one)

Bonus points for knowing why I'm getting into square-1.

Edit: 4x4 OLL I saw in another thread:

Rw U2 Rw' U' R U r U2 Rw'
 
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MarcelP said:
Yeah, I use Yau, and in the weekly comp from this week (40) I just broke Average PB with 2.14. MoYu has a 4 X 4 comming. It's on pre sale at HKNowstore and Calvin has a small video op with corner cutting. It looks like it cuts as much as a 3 X 3 cube which is no 4 X 4 of mine can do ;) I have not ordered it yet. I am waiting reviews on this one. It's 21 dollar pre order. So not cheap. I think it will be worth it though..
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I have done nothing but 4x4 and 2x2 since I got fed up with my lack of 3x3 progress a few weeks ago. 4x4 ao12 is now 2:32 with single PB 2:05. Battle of the oldies? :)
 
mark49152 said:
I have done nothing but 4x4 and 2x2 since I got fed up with my lack of 3x3 progress a few weeks ago. 4x4 ao12 is now 2:32 with single PB 2:05. Battle of the oldies? :)
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LOL.. Where are at same speed alright.. I wish I had practiced a little more so I could be sub 2 at a competition this month ;)

EDIT: in my Youtube is a video of this week 4X4 2.08 with double parity ;)
 
MarcelP said:
LOL.. Where are at same speed alright.. I wish I had practiced a little more so I could be sub 2 at a competition this month ;)

EDIT: in my Youtube is a video of this week 4X4 2.08 with double parity ;)
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Yeah I practised a lot but am still getting used to the edge pairing. I do it 2222, building two dedges in the back slots via one slice move, so that all remaining edges are easy to find, then alternating between the front two slots to build the last six dedges. I don't know if there's a "correct" way to d pairing in Yau.

I also learned OLL and PLL algs that have parity embedded, so that I don't have to do extra steps. See the 4x4 help thread. The algs and recognition are actually pretty easy.
 
mark49152 said:
I also learned OLL and PLL algs that have parity embedded, so that I don't have to do extra steps. See the 4x4 help thread. The algs and recognition are actually pretty easy.
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With or without parity.. I don't care about that. And I know full OLL but I do not use it. I use two look OLL just because I have executed these OLL's a million times more and I am pretty sure I do not mess them up.. LOL ;) Doing LL on a 4X4 is so much harder than on a 3X3. Most of my fingertrick do not work. I think 50% of the times my PLLs fail.

Schmidt said:
Getting no parity helps
4x4x4 in the weekly
1:37.11, 1:30.55, 1:32.59, 1:48.91, 1:30.71 = 1:33.47
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Just when I thought I was closing in on you.. ;)
 
MarcelP said:
With or without parity.. I don't care about that. And I know full OLL but I do not use it. I use two look OLL just because I have executed these OLL's a million times more and I am pretty sure I do not mess them up.. LOL ;) Doing LL on a 4X4 is so much harder than on a 3X3. Most of my fingertrick do not work. I think 50% of the times my PLLs fail.
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I should fix my own post - I meant 2-look OLL and 2-look PLL with parity embedded. So there's 2 extra EO algs, for 1 and 3 edges flipped, and 3 extra EPLLs - W-perm, Oa and Ob-perm - as well as the adjacent and opposite swaps. So always 4 steps for LL regardless of parity.

Learning full OLL all over again with parity embedded would be way out of my league, but it has been done! :)

I agree with you regarding LL on 4x4. Recognition and execution are both harder. If I try to do full PLL I usually either screw up the alg or arrive at some other PLL case, or parity. That's why I prefer 2-look. I do A and V-perm for corners and my finger tricks are OK for those.

4x4 is a great puzzle though. So much more going on, and I think I prefer it to 3x3.
 
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