Remove 3x3x3 with Feet as an Official Event?

Do you think 3x3x3 WF should be removed from the list of official events?


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I think it is a good point that there is absolutely nothing new with feet from normal 3x3. At least with OH you have to practise new techniques and algorithms, and generally approach solving a bit differently. With feet it is exactly the same thing but just using one foot to hold the cube in place and the other to force a layer to turn.

I'm surprised you, as someone who practiced feet a lot, would say something like that.
 
It's true though... there are no "toe-tricks" or special techniques that I am aware of. It's just brute force, and awkward at that. I mean sure, as you do it you get better at holding the cube, and I guess your toes do get slightly improved technical ability, but really it's not worth even mentioning.
 
It's true though... there are no "toe-tricks" or special techniques that I am aware of. It's just brute force, and awkward at that. I mean sure, as you do it you get better at holding the cube, and I guess your toes do get slightly improved technical ability, but really it's not worth even mentioning.

 
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Or the fact that feet cubing is not very deep. It doesn't add much of a new dimension to solving a 3x3x3 as OH does, and the evolution of times that people are getting has basically stayed static since we first started holding the event.

Well, I have to disagree here. I find feet cubing to be very complicated to do, and I think it "adds much of a new dimension to solving a 3x3x3" just the same as OH does.

For feet solving, you have to change the way you "hold" the cube, the angle at where you look at it, the way you make turns, new algs, etc. I wonder how people don't get confused in the middle of a long PLL in which they turn the cube a few times and move 2 or 3 different layers.

As for the evolution, look here: (I'm sure you already did, but probably not everybody)
https://www.worldcubeassociation.or...egionId=&eventId=333ft&years=&history=History

I think going from 5 minutes to 30 seconds is quite good.

Take OH, for example. It went from ~45 to 12.

I'm not a big fan of feet solving, specially because of the logistics (having to move the timers out/back to the tables, moving chairs and such) and because lot of non-fast people do it, at least here. I'd probably be a little happier if it became unofficial, but I'm not sure it should.

The media here in Brazil seems to LOVE feet cubing. It's almost always a headline whenever they cover a competition. I don't know how many people find it gross/disgusting or damaging to the speedcubing image, but as someone already said, we don't look exactly "serious" turning our stupid little cubes real fast, traveling around and competing for no good prizes. I personally don't think it affects our image in a bad way.
 
The media here in Brazil seems to LOVE feet cubing. It's almost always a headline whenever they cover a competition. I don't know how many people find it gross/disgusting or damaging to the speedcubing image, but as someone already said, we don't look exactly "serious" turning our stupid little cubes real fast, traveling around and competing for no good prizes. I personally don't think it affects our image in a bad way.

Thus transforming "speedcubers" into "those people who solve Rubik's cubes with their feet."

That's what sucks about feet. Other than that I'm ok with it.
 
I disagree to a certain extent, and I was mostly countering Pedro's argument that feet is improving more than OH with actual facts..

Well, you said "basically stayed static since we first started holding the event", and Pedro then correctly showed the progress since back then. Your "actual facts" are the ones not matching the range you yourself had brought up.
 
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You were the one saying "basically stayed static since we first started holding the event", and Pedro then correctly showed the progress. Your "actual facts" are the ones not matching the range you yourself had brought up.

True, I shifted the range.

I did this because I considered initial results for events to be anomalous (which they are). If you agree with this you'll see why taking a range from recent years is a better measure of progress.
 
I just posted this on another thread but I think it may be useful here:

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Sure, it means that the WR single for feet 5 years ago was 132,3% compared to what it is now, for instance.

Okay, I see now. I was confused that not everything was 100% in the first column, now I just realized because it starts with "1 year ago", and not "currently" (which would be all 100% of course).
 
True, I shifted the range.

I did this because I considered initial results for events to be anomalous (which they are). If you agree with this you'll see why taking a range from recent years is a better measure of progress.

You definitely cherry-picked that range, though. From cubizh's chart, feet single has improved more over the last 3 years than OH single. OH apparently went through a huge improvement relative to some other events between 3 and 4 years ago. I'd argue a large part of that might be due to quality of the hardware, which doesn't affect feet quite as much as it does OH.

If we extrapolate world temperatures for the past 3 years, can't we show that we have a serious global cooling problem? :)
 
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