How to be sub 20

[speedcuber50]

Well, I got 19 seconds today...

 

[xAnon]

It's really hard for me to get to sub 20 average but am hitting 15.xx - 17.xx - 18.xx single but i average 21.xx

My F2L (Pre-cross) is 9 seconds average is 10 is that good am practicing my f2l since yesterday

 

[Jorghi]

^ That's is plenty good. If you know 2 Look OLL and maybe full PLL you should be sub 20.

 

[McBeef]

Hello everyone as the title states, I cannot get sub 20s often. my PB is like 14.xx (very lucky solve) but my AO5 is around 24 so here are the facts of my solves.

CFOP
Cross: 3-5 (seconds)
F2L: 10-13
OLL:3-4
PLL:~5 seconds.

I know a few oll algs.
I know full pll
I know Intuitive f2l (should I get to algorithmic f2l?)

obviously I need practice but anything else that you guys can help me with?

If you guys and gals want a video I can try to get one out but im not sure if I actually can thanks to everyone and have a wonderful day!!

 

[TheCuber23]

I recommend learning look ahead.

 

[TheNextFeliks]

Your pll is so slow. Cross could also be improved.

 

[Akiro]

You shouldn't go to algorithmic F2L... stay with intuitive F2L, you won't regret it
And your PLLs are way too long...
Check out videos of PLL execution (for the fingertricks) and be able to at least sub-3 each of them

Also, plan out your cross during inspection, so you can do it in 3 sec max each time.

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

Your cross should be a lot shorter...Def werk on your PLL. Do PLL time attacks and try to get each alg under 2 seconds. And ofc look ahead during F2L. I think Collinbxyz has some interesting stuff on Cubingworld (youtube).

 

[sneaklyfox]

Intuitive F2L is fine, but if you find yourself taking more than 8 moves to solve a case you might want to look up an algorithm or figure out how to be more efficient and use less moves. And yeah, practice look ahead.

 

[kunparekh18]

All PLLs should ideally be sub-2

Work on C+F and get them to around 13s, cross should be max 3s, work on transitions, look ahead more

 

[PeelingStickers]

PLL lets me down too. Work on recognition more than anything as that will aid you in the hunt for sub 15.

Practice just the cross, it helped me get consistent sub 8 move crosses. After that, track F2L pairs so ou can do Cross+1 fluidly. A good start to a solve is exactly what you need.

F2L lookahead will come with practice. I promise you.

 

[linusyeong]

So what are the recommended time spent on each stage for CFOP? Like 4 seconds on Cross etc.

 

[TheNextFeliks]

So what are the recommended time spent on each stage for CFOP? Like 4 seconds on Cross etc.

Lol not 4.

Cross: 2.5
F2L: 10
OLL: 3.3
PLL: 4.2

 

[kunparekh18]

How about how on getting sub-20 OH? :/

 

[TheNextFeliks]

How about how on getting sub-20 OH? :/

Page 1. Basically same thing. Good algs. Practice. That's it.

 

[noobium]

I currently average around 26sec and I did a few split and here are my results:
Cross:3.95(15%)
F2L:14.13(53.8%)
LL:8.19(31,2%)
Ave:26.275

So the average of the split is representative of my current performances... I was wondering what is my weakest point and what I should work on the most. Also, I would like to know where it should be easier to cut some time because it looks a lot like a typical solve(66% on F2L and 33% on the LL)

Thanks,

 

[Tim Major]

How about how on getting sub-20 OH? :/

I used to average low 20, had a few sub 20 averages but I wasn't consistent. For me, I found that my algorithms were never going to be "fast" or comparable to a 20 second 3x3 solver. Cross+F2L should take about 13 seconds or less, last layer takes longer OH than a 20 second 2H solver. Work on having absolutely no pauses in F2L, whilst turning as fast as you can. Once you can turn as fast as you can manage during F2L WHILST looking ahead, you will likely be sub 20.

Edit: Also review bad OLLs/PLLs and replace them with more suitable OH ones. I use different algorithms for H, Z, U, N, V, F perms (and maybe others) for example. I also use different OLLs for some cases.

Edit:

I currently average around 26sec and I did a few split and here are my results:
Cross:3.95(15%)
F2L:14.13(53.8%)
LL:8.19(31,2%)
Ave:26.275

So the average of the split is representative of my current performances... I was wondering what is my weakest point and what I should work on the most. Also, I would like to know where it should be easier to cut some time because it looks a lot like a typical solve(66% on F2L and 33% on the LL)

Thanks,

Your F2L can be improved by a lot. Just work on practising F2L cases until you can see a case then perform it without looking. Once you get to this stage it is easy to look ahead. I am sure you are easily turning fast enough to be below 20, your only barrier is your lookahead and familiarity with F2L cases.

 

[BillyRain]

I need to time my splits... I am sub20.. but there is alot of things I've missed in my practice. I could potentially be alot faster than I am now if I went back to the basics and caught up with myself.

 

[kunparekh18]

I used to average low 20, had a few sub 20 averages but I wasn't consistent. For me, I found that my algorithms were never going to be "fast" or comparable to a 20 second 3x3 solver. Cross+F2L should take about 13 seconds or less, last layer takes longer OH than a 20 second 2H solver. Work on having absolutely no pauses in F2L, whilst turning as fast as you can. Once you can turn as fast as you can manage during F2L WHILST looking ahead, you will likely be sub 20.

Edit: Also review bad OLLs/PLLs and replace them with more suitable OH ones. I use different algorithms for H, Z, U, N, V, F perms (and maybe others) for example. I also use different OLLs for some cases.

Thanks a lot, I'm kinda at the same stage right now, need to lookahead at f2l. Have found awesome OH PLLs for each and every case, now I just need to get good OLLs and drill them.

 

[rj]

I currently average around 26sec and I did a few split and here are my results:
Cross:3.95(15%)
F2L:14.13(53.8%)
LL:8.19(31,2%)
Ave:26.275

So the average of the split is representative of my current performances... I was wondering what is my weakest point and what I should work on the most. Also, I would like to know where it should be easier to cut some time because it looks a lot like a typical solve(66% on F2L and 33% on the LL)

Thanks,

Cross and F2L. Do you use full O/PLL?