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[MarcelP]

I could not plan a full cross if my life depended on it. However, looking at the cube and planning out two or three pieces mimimum and then while solving find the remaining and keep track of one corner suits me just fine. I average complete F2L in just sub 20. I guess I average cross about 5 seconds. Let's test that:

Color neutral:

Average of 12: 4.73
1-12 - 5.96 5.15 5.23 (2.84) 5.56 3.47 4.01 3.83 (6.67) 6.46 4.30 3.34


White cross:
Average of 12: 4.27
1-12 - 5.33 (2.42) 3.76 2.59 4.67 4.60 (6.41) 4.34 4.00 5.47 2.94 4.99

Oh wow, I did not see that comming. I thought I was having an advantage of easy crosses on CN. LOL. Well, to answr your question, I train CN because it is great fun. I was getting a bit bored with normal solves. I started Roux training and other stuff to keep motivated. But then I saw the color neutral transition topic which got me enthousiastic. I will stick with it for now. Today my averages are not so good, but I have these flaws with white crosses also.

 

[guusrs]

Lars is Belgian and very well known in our region (-;
I didn't see his site before but for me no new results here, maximum for cross is always 8 moves (Marcel, I said you so!) and perfect executed CN gives you 1 lower move count.
Which is about 0.12 seconds for the fastest cubers in the world (-;

 

[MarcelP]

Ah, the name sounded familiar but I could not place a face with that. Yes, I know you are not a big fan of the color neutral. LOL.. Well, I am on holiday this week and have some time to train more color neutral. I think I will be faster on CN soon enough to compete with my white cross times. I think I have said it before, solving single color only is for pussies!

 

[sneaklyfox]

Ah, the name sounded familiar but I could not place a face with that. Yes, I know you are not a big fan of the color neutral. LOL.. Well, I am on holiday this week and have some time to train more color neutral. I think I will be faster on CN soon enough to compete with my white cross times. I think I have said it before, solving single color only is for pussies!

Sounds like a challenge!

 

[MarcelP]

Sounds like a challenge!

Do you doubt my dedication? LOL. Look what I did to my cubes to get rid of that 'white' spot in my brain:

It will be hard, but at least I am willing to give it a few more weeks/months..

 

[ender9994]

I would be interested to see how fast someone could be if they tried not only being color neutral, but color orientation neutral. Take a couple of extra cubes and sticker them with random colors and color orientations (ex. have a cube with yellow across from blue, a cube with a purple, white, and yellow on adjacent faces... and so on) After work today I might try to make 5 completely random cubes if I can find enough extra stickers laying around and then compare an avg. of 12 of each of them to my normal color scheme.

-Doug

 

[JE007]

The cube looks nice!

 

[MarcelP]

Hey Doug, that is really interesting! I am looking forward to your results. My first solve with black instead of white with a black cross took me 45 seconds. LOL I think if all colors are not in their original place it would have been much worse

 

[MarcelP]

The cube looks nice!

Yeah, it does. I kind of wanted to try black instead of white for a while. But since I am really dedicated to get CN I thought this might help.

 

[sneaklyfox]

Do you doubt my dedication?

Oh, no I don't doubt your dedication. Just that you called me a "pussy" because I'm not CN.

 

[MarcelP]

Oh, no I don't doubt your dedication. Just that you called me a "pussy" because I'm not CN.

Ah, I get it Well, I would love to see you go CN. You are one of the few people here that I admire a lot. I know you could be true CN since your dedication (looking at OH, Roux, 3 X 3 on 4 X 4 etc) is so great. I remember you post a CN Ao12 in this thread with an average of 27 seconds. You said that was bad because you average 17 seconds. Well, I think the first week you be around 20 seconds.. It took me less than two days to get more than 10 seconds of my CN averages.

 

[sneaklyfox]

Ah, I get it Well, I would love to see you go CN. You are one of the few people here that I admire a lot. I know you could be true CN since your dedication (looking at OH, Roux, 3 X 3 on 4 X 4 etc) is so great. I remember you post a CN Ao12 in this thread with an average of 27 seconds. You said that was bad because you average 17 seconds. Well, I think the first week you be around 20 seconds.. It took me less than two days to get more than 10 seconds of my CN averages.

Wow, I didn't know. I feel honoured, but the feeling is mutual.

Well, check me out on the CN transition thread. I just started!

 

[mark49152]

I could not plan a full cross if my life depended on it. However, looking at the cube and planning out two or three pieces mimimum and then while solving find the remaining and keep track of one corner suits me just fine. I average complete F2L in just sub 20. I guess I average cross about 5 seconds.

Well your cross and F2L are in much better proportion than mine. From speedpicker's analysis of solve breakdowns, cross should be about 12% and the 4 pairs about 50% of solve total, so you are almost perfectly proportioned apart from maybe a fast last layer My cross is ~8 compared to ~21-22 for slots and ~13 last layer, so my mission for the next couple of weeks is cross boot camp. Any recommendations for good learning or training resources?

 

[MarcelP]

the next couple of weeks is cross boot camp. Any recommendations for good learning or training resources?

Well, I sucked at crosses major. Then I did a full week, crosses only. More than an hour per day. I went from over 10 seconds averages to my current cross times. I guess Badmephisto has a good video as well and the best cross video is from crazybadcuber.

 

[mark49152]

Well, I sucked at crosses major. Then I did a full week, crosses only. More than an hour per day. I went from over 10 seconds averages to my current cross times

Your dedication is inspirational

 

[MarcelP]

I received my first 6 X 6 two days ago. It was a cheap 13 dollar cube. I believe it is an Eastsheen. Well it's a piece of crap. You need two hands to turn one face. Nevertheless I really enjoyed solving it. It took me over 4 hours to complete the centers. LOL.

anyway, today I did my biggest achievement in my cube carriere:

Blue: 31.24
(29.20) 30.88 29.58 (36.01) 33.27

Red: 29.90
(38.61) 27.03 (25.33) 33.93 28.73

Orange:28.69
30.75 25.79 (32.72) (23.32) 29.53

Green: 30.98
32.36 (27.61) 29.56 (36.84) 31.01

White: 27.93
30.41 24.10 (22.89) (30.83) 29.27

Yellow: 30.57
33.07 30.57 (26.61) (35.65) 28.06

Black: 29.46
(27.39) (31.23) 29.71 30.57 28.10

I thought that was pretty awesome. That 31 on Blue could maybe have been some faster as these where not the first timed solves of today.

 

[Kattenvriendin]

Wow.. you are nicely progressing there! Hopefully tomorrow I can graduate from the red.

I got all my big cubes the shengshous, won't regret it, ever (oh save for the 11 that is ).

There is quite some fun in those big cubes huh!

 

[MarcelP]

Yeah, I am in doubt if I should buy the Shengshou aswell My Shengshou 4 x 4 and 5 x 5 are flawless.

 

[Kattenvriendin]

And so it begins..... *points at cabinet*

LOL

 

[sneaklyfox]

Yeah, I am in doubt if I should buy the Shengshou aswell My Shengshou 4 x 4 and 5 x 5 are flawless.

Which SS4 do you have? v3 or v4? Did you do any mods to it? White or black? Just wondering because I'm thinking of getting those myself. They're not expensive. fasttech has them for just over $13 for both SS4 and SS5 in a package.