Blindsolving Failure Thread

[ottozing]

You're doing 7x7 BLD now? O__O

 

[Mike Hughey]

Very first attempt at 7x7 blindfolded:

DNF by 57 pieces (1:54:50.12)

I think my brain is bruised. I feel like having a sleep now.

Nice try! It's always nice to see someone else willing to do attempts that are so long for them.

You're doing 7x7 BLD now? O__O

Well, why not? He's already done 6x6x6 BLD, so it's next in the logical progression, right?

rock1313, looking forward to seeing your first success, so that then you can try 8x8x8.

 

[Ollie]

5BLD DNF(9:50.07)[5:15] D u r2 L2 u2 d L2 d2 u' f2 d D' R2 l2 U F2 L2 F R2 b' F2 B L2 B' l D2 R U' f2 r2 L l' F U2 b' u2 D2 l D b' R B2 r2 R' b2 f' d2 b' F' r' d b l2 B' b' d2 D R2 D r'

3 +-centres (cycled CW instead of CCW) and 2 wings (missed during memo.)

GRRR. :fp

 

[CHJ]

5BLD DNF(9:50.07)[5:15] D u r2 L2 u2 d L2 d2 u' f2 d D' R2 l2 U F2 L2 F R2 b' F2 B L2 B' l D2 R U' f2 r2 L l' F U2 b' u2 D2 l D b' R B2 r2 R' b2 f' d2 b' F' r' d b l2 B' b' d2 D R2 D r'

3 +-centres (cycled CW instead of CCW) and 2 wings (missed during memo.)

GRRR. :fp

I feel for you, i did the same thing yesterday, although not as fast or efficient, 28mins (14:23) is still quite good for me, i shaved 7 minutes of memo but bad solve leaving my 2 wrong centre piece staring at me! Though i was going for fast, my real goal is success for uko because we're instant podium if we do

 

[rock1313]

rock1313, looking forward to seeing your first success, so that then you can try 8x8x8.

The only thing I can think of whenever I hear the word 8x8 blindfolded is 6 SETS OF OBLIQUES =0

 

[ottozing]

Well, why not? He's already done 6x6x6 BLD.

I wasn't saying he shouldn't, I'm just saying it's bloody impressive/insane to do 7x7 BLD.

 

[Ollie]

and another 5BLD DNF(9:44.45)[4:15] b2 L u' b' r' L2 u' b r2 d' r' U L' F B' D' U r2 d2 b2 d' u F2 d2 l' L' r U' D d' b2 L' b d L2 b' d2 u' b2 D2 L' f2 r' f' B2 L' u2 b' B' l' b2 F B2 r R' u2 r2 b' U' d2

One corner cycle executed incorrectly (again, CW instead of CCW.) I can smell it!

 

[drewsopchak]

and another 5BLD DNF(9:44.45)[4:15] b2 L u' b' r' L2 u' b r2 d' r' U L' F B' D' U r2 d2 b2 d' u F2 d2 l' L' r U' D d' b2 L' b d L2 b' d2 u' b2 D2 L' f2 r' f' B2 L' u2 b' B' l' b2 F B2 r R' u2 r2 b' U' d2

One corner cycle executed incorrectly (again, CW instead of CCW.) I can smell it!

How many LPs do you interact?

 

[Ollie]

How many LPs do you interact?

I assume you mean how many letter pairs I assign per location? I don't have any strict system - because I use sentences I can carry on adding letter pairs to an image until it feels uncomfortable/stops making sense. It means I can be more imaginative and be a bit more efficient with my memo.

i.e. AB CD EF GH JK LM NO could be "listening to an ABba CD with my sister (EF) - she's dressed up as a GHost and I'm as the JoKer. Joanna LuMley comes in the room and says "NO.""

 

[drewsopchak]

I assume you mean how many letter pairs I assign per location? I don't have any strict system - because I use sentences I can carry on adding letter pairs to an image until it feels uncomfortable/stops making sense. It means I can be more imaginative and be a bit more efficient with my memo.

i.e. AB CD EF GH JK LM NO could be "listening to an ABba CD with my sister (EF) - she's dressed up as a GHost and I'm as the JoKer. Joanna LuMley comes in the room and says "NO.""

How many loci does a 5bld typically take for you?

 

[Noahaha]

How many loci does a 5bld typically take?

Takes me 12:
4 for x-centers
4 for +-centers
4 for wings

 

[drewsopchak]

Takes me 12:
4 for x-centers
4 for +-centers
4 for wings

Do you execute edges first and corners second? Interesting!
Your new signature is great but I thought you used petrus?

 

[Noahaha]

Do you execute edges first and corners second? Interesting!
Your new signature is great but I thought you used petrus?

I execute the inner 3x3 first (like a 3BLD), then edges, then centers.

About the sig, usually when I DNF I have a cross so I just use CFOP. I would never say anything so negative about Petrus. When speedsolving for 2H I use Petrus/CFOP/X-crossFOP and for OH Petrus all the way.

 

[Rubiks560]

After watching Noah's BLD video I decided to practice. 14 SLOW DNFs in a row :'(

 

[Ollie]

How many loci does a 5bld typically take for you?

EDIT: in fact, thinking about it, I use one room per set of pieces and place multiple images in each room (the majority of the loci within my journeys are spacious so it isn't too hard to do.) The images will occasionally interact with each other to make the story more vivid. So in order:

Wings: 1
Midges: 1
X-Centers: 1
+-Centers: 1
Corners: 0 (Memorised last, using STM.)

Executed in reverse!

 

[Mikel]

After watching Noah's BLD video I decided to practice. 14 SLOW DNFs in a row :'(

BLD sucks, please don't practice.

 

[drewsopchak]

EDIT: in fact, thinking about it, I use one room per set of pieces and place multiple images in each room (the majority of the loci within my journeys are spacious so it isn't too hard to do.) The images will occasionally interact with each other to make the story more vivid. So in order:

Wings: 1
Midges: 1
X-Centers: 1
+-Centers: 1
Corners: 0 (Memorised last, using STM.)

Executed in reverse!

I used to execute in reverse but found it awkward.

 

[DrKorbin]

I used to execute in reverse but found it awkward.

Why?
I also execute in reverse. First I memorize x-centers and wings and review each of them twice. Then I memorize t-centers and review them once. After that I memorize edges without reviewing. Because my execution is in reverse, there is nothing bad that I memorized t-centers and edges "poorly".

 

[Ollie]

Why?
I also execute in reverse. First I memorize x-centers and wings and review each of them twice. Then I memorize t-centers and review them once. After that I memorize edges without reviewing. Because my execution is in reverse, there is nothing bad that I memorized t-centers and edges "poorly".

I'm finding that hard to believe as well. I think my order is actually; memorize wings, midges and x-centers first then review; memorize +-centers w/o reviewing; then put corners in at the end for STM.

How long ago did you sub-9??? I've had so many close attempts to sub-10 now it's unreal (latest being a 9:44.xx DNF with 2 incorrect +-centers )

 

[illucid]

First full BLD attempt off by 2 twisted corners

I've been practicing sighted 3x3 BLD (old pochmann) for a month now once or twice a day. I had my memo image recognition/recall down and setup moves took no thought at all, so two days ago I started actually trying to do the memo. I would do edges and corners each as a separate step. I successfully did memo and execution for edges and parity. Then did memo and execution for corners. I was surprised that the memo was not as difficult as I had imagined. I had been psyching myself out for so long and I don't know why I never got around to actually trying an actual, full, blind solve.

So, I tried my first 3x3 BLD attempt ever just now and I was off by 2 twisted corners. On my second to last shoot, I shot to FLU instead of UFL. I look forward to my first official solve at Dayton 2012 next weekend, but I have some questions to ask. Is there a time limit for BLD? I thought I read in the regs that most events have a time limit of 10 minutes if no other limit is stated. Also, what is the difference between a soft and hard cap? Lastly, I don't own a blindfold. No time to have one shipped online. Can I pick one up at a pharmacy? I've seen sleeping masks there before, but not sure if they are equivalent or what the regulations state. If I show up with a blindfold that blocks my sight is that good enough?