Need help with scrambles

[Mike Hughey]

Oh, I did! I missed that you had changed it to multi-layer turns. Actually as I was doing it I was thinking, "you know, this might be a lot easier with multi-layer turns".

I think I'm still thrown a little bit orienting to each axis. But I think that would get pretty automatic after just a little practice.

 

[Kenneth]

Yes it does, Im almost always does that anyway to F and B turns so I was already used to it.

I just invented "Scramble to solved state"

First carefully and slowly do the inverse of the scramble to make sure you are doing it correct. Then take the time it takes to apply the scramble, if the cube is solved you did it right, else it is a DNF.

Time 1:12.53

MASS-gen v1.2 Size: 5 X 5 X 5 length: 20

10.20-U 22.31-R 23.10-U 23.22-R 32.00-U 00.22-R 20.03-F 11.21-U 00.01-F 20.22-R 33.01-U 12.22-R 00.12-U 00.02-R 20.23-F 20.11-R 33.32-U 10.33-F 11.03-U 13.21-R

I set it to 20 posts, that gives 60 turns on average.

 

[Mike Hughey]

I DNFed my first two tries. My third try I finally got it right: 1:02.64.

I tried a regular 5x5x5 scramble (60 turns), and it took 52.33. Since I've practiced that LOTS (all those weekly competitions, you know, plus lots of averages of 10), I'd say it's likely that it's comparable.

With practice, this might become a little faster for me than normal scrambles. But I'm doubting it would be a very big improvement. It might be different with the bigger cubes, though.

 

[Kenneth]

In time one starts to reconise the groups of 2-digits on the smaller ones 12.xx or xx.12, (the second appears on both 4x and 5x), there are 15 combinations possible in a 2-digit group (not counting .00) and some makes single turns (ex: xx.22 = r2, xx.31 = r')

For some turns you can choose like in 22.22, there you can do as written Lw2+L2 and Rw2+R2 or l2 and r2 or M2 and then m2.

(the order of the turns newer matter)

Some are obvious, like 00.01-U = a single U-turn, do it like that.

And so on...

With practice, this might become a little faster for me than normal scrambles. But I'm doubting it would be a very big improvement. It might be different with the bigger cubes, though.

I have not tried it so much with bigger ones yet, it takes so long time to solve them again

OK, I can inverse the scramble but that's boring.