Magics Removed from WCA Events List in 2013?

[cityzach]

I really hope they don't get removed...

 

[ben1996123]

lol magics. 8x8 plz.

 

[Ranzha]

It is being discussed amongst delegates/board members. No decision has been made yet, but I'm sure it will be announced clearly when one is made.

It was proposed, but nothing definite yet.

Edit: Ninja'd by Daniel

Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification.

Regarding addition of events: I remember months ago Lucas said that the WRC was going to handle addition/removal of events after current issues are tackled.
Sauce: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...gulations-2012&p=684975&viewfull=1#post684975
What this means in regards to the proposed removal of magics I cannot be sure.

 

[lordblendi]

I think it's true, Lars V heard about that too. And if you check the WC2013 on the WCA website, they are not in the events list. http://worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?i=WC2013

 

[leonparfitt]

i hope they replace it with skewb

 

[rubixwiz031]

This makes me very sad.

 

[brandbest1]

Luckily I've already given up magic for life for square-1.

 

[Tyson]

Yes, there will be more clarification. There has been overwhelming support by the WCA delegates and the board to remove Magic and Master Magic from competitions because they aren't puzzles, and are notoriously difficult to regulate. There is really little confidence that any given time in these events was done under fair conditions.

We aim to reduce the number of competitions that hold Magic and Master Magic and will be not holding the event in 2013. Records and times will be archived, but no new times would take place.

 

[Ranzha]

Yes, there will be more clarification. There has been overwhelming support by the WCA delegates and the board to remove Magic and Master Magic from competitions because they aren't puzzles, and are notoriously difficult to regulate. There is really little confidence that any given time in these events was done under fair conditions.

We aim to reduce the number of competitions that hold Magic and Master Magic and will be not holding the event in 2013. Records and times will be archived, but no new times would take place.

"No new times would take place." <- Basically, all 2013 magics times will be archived but unofficial?

 

[Julian]

"No new times would take place." <- Basically, all 2013 magics times will be archived but unofficial?

will be not holding the event in 2013.

message too short

 

[Ranzha]

message too short

I was referring more so to the archival than the unofficial status.

 

[cityzach]

This is so unfair...

 

[Kian]

Wow. I did not expect everyone to find out this quickly.

Tyson already mentioned it, but the support of the delegates on this measure was almost unanimous. We simply can't justify holding an event we have no faith is judged adequately and is not treated as a puzzle. It does not fit in with the spirit of our organization.

We recognize that some people will dislike this measure, but it is in the interest of fairness and running competitions effectively.

 

[Stefan]

Where the hell is the surprise challenge?

 

[Ernie Pulchny]

Removing Magics is stupid... Why would they remove it when most people in a competition compete in it. If this really happens, I'll be mad...

 

[mrpotatoman14]

Where the hell is the surprise challenge?

lol

inb4 drew sopchak

 

[cityzach]

Removing Magics is stupid... Why would they remove it when most people in a competition compete in it. If this really happens, I'll be mad...

It really is happening. Lets cry together buddy :'(

 

[antoineccantin]

How about we remove Magic, since their is a lot of problems with judging it & stuff, but I never hear of judging problems with Master Magic, so what's the point of removing that one too? Continuity? Thats not a very good excuse, we have 3BLD, 4BLD, 5BLD, but not 2BLD or 6BLD.

 

[vcuber13]

Removing Magics is stupid...

No its not

Why would they remove it when most people in a competition compete in it.

Because it isnt a real puzzle, and most people do it because it isnt.

If this really happens, I'll be mad...

Frankly, nobody cares

 

[cityzach]

How about we remove Magic, since their is a lot of problems with judging it & stuff, but I never hear of judging problems with Master Magic, so what's the point of removing that one too? Continuity? Thats not a very good excuse, we have 3BLD, 4BLD, 5BLD, but not 2BLD.

I agree. It's easier to judge master magic since it's generally a slower solve I believe. And master magic is a lot funner imo.