Magics Removed from WCA Events List in 2013?

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kinch2002 said:
It is being discussed amongst delegates/board members. No decision has been made yet, but I'm sure it will be announced clearly when one is made.
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Meep said:
It was proposed, but nothing definite yet.

Edit: Ninja'd by Daniel
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Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification.

Regarding addition of events: I remember months ago Lucas said that the WRC was going to handle addition/removal of events after current issues are tackled.
Sauce: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...gulations-2012&p=684975&viewfull=1#post684975
What this means in regards to the proposed removal of magics I cannot be sure.
 
Yes, there will be more clarification. There has been overwhelming support by the WCA delegates and the board to remove Magic and Master Magic from competitions because they aren't puzzles, and are notoriously difficult to regulate. There is really little confidence that any given time in these events was done under fair conditions.

We aim to reduce the number of competitions that hold Magic and Master Magic and will be not holding the event in 2013. Records and times will be archived, but no new times would take place.
 
Tyson said:
Yes, there will be more clarification. There has been overwhelming support by the WCA delegates and the board to remove Magic and Master Magic from competitions because they aren't puzzles, and are notoriously difficult to regulate. There is really little confidence that any given time in these events was done under fair conditions.

We aim to reduce the number of competitions that hold Magic and Master Magic and will be not holding the event in 2013. Records and times will be archived, but no new times would take place.
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"No new times would take place." <- Basically, all 2013 magics times will be archived but unofficial?
 
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Wow. I did not expect everyone to find out this quickly.

Tyson already mentioned it, but the support of the delegates on this measure was almost unanimous. We simply can't justify holding an event we have no faith is judged adequately and is not treated as a puzzle. It does not fit in with the spirit of our organization.

We recognize that some people will dislike this measure, but it is in the interest of fairness and running competitions effectively.
 
How about we remove Magic, since their is a lot of problems with judging it & stuff, but I never hear of judging problems with Master Magic, so what's the point of removing that one too? Continuity? Thats not a very good excuse, we have 3BLD, 4BLD, 5BLD, but not 2BLD or 6BLD.
 
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antoineccantin said:
How about we remove Magic, since their is a lot of problems with judging it & stuff, but I never hear of judging problems with Master Magic, so what's the point of removing that one too? Continuity? Thats not a very good excuse, we have 3BLD, 4BLD, 5BLD, but not 2BLD.
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I agree. It's easier to judge master magic since it's generally a slower solve I believe. And master magic is a lot funner imo.
 
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