What to learn next for LL...general help/input/ect.

[musicninja17]

So i'm near consistent sub 17 now. (when i'm not tired and can actually focus...)
Getting better at the whole lookahead thing, I know full OLL and PLL
Intuitive F2l. Nothing fancy really save for a few handy tricks/corner pair twists that I remember for some reason.

Also trying to go color neutral and maybe get a hang on EOline and that whole chestnut (because I realize that I don't like F2l as much as I should because it's just not ergonomic as i'd like to to be...)

Enough rant, what I'm really asking is what the most logical tack on (LL and pre-LL wise)) should I be going for next?

I thought about learning the T subset to zbll...but is that even worth it? Even just for fun sake?

Think of it economy-wise...what algs are going to be the most useful?/worth my time learning them?

Sorry if that sounds unclear, and I appreciate any input. Been ages since I started a thread.

 

[Jaysammey777]

I'd suggest learning more methods for a better understanding of the cube I'm pretty sure that's one of the major things that got my sub-16 last summer.

Oh And tons of practice If not you'll go back to 17 K bye

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[emolover]

I have always thought MGLS is really cool and have thought about learning it myself(need to finish CLL/ELL).

Learning ELS would be pretty easy since most of it I and I would assume you too could solve it intuitively. OLL with DFR corner orientation is the next part and is a lot of algs but seems like it would be worth learning.

You could also learn ELL/CLL as an alternative to OLL/PLL esspecially when you get a bad OLL.

LPELL seems pretty helpful and I actually think I might learn that for myself.

You don't really need us to tell you what to learn. Just go to the Sub Step page and take a look for your self. There is a lot of neat things on there that I think you should decide yourself on what you will learn. But what I listed above is stuff that plan to learn.

 

[musicninja17]

I'd suggest learning more methods for a better understanding of the cube I'm pretty sure that's one of the major things that got my sub-16 last summer.
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Thank you, but that's not what i'm looking for. I'm going with Fridrich. I like it too much to ditch it. The only other method i can see major potential with is Roux. But I want to invest my time with fridrich...so i'm looking for nice tack ons to that.

(**corny metaphor warning**)
I'm asking for a mileage booster, not a new car. New car would probably, yes, give me a better understanding of cars...but not the direction i'm going in.

I have always thought MGLS is really cool and have thought about learning it myself(need to finish CLL/ELL).

You could also learn ELL/CLL as an alternative to OLL/PLL esspecially when you get a bad OLL.

LPELL seems pretty helpful and I actually think I might learn that for myself.

Mgls does look pretty nice.
but LPLL is nearly _exactly_ what i'm looking for. Thank you. I can def. see the benefit with that.
http://cubefreak.net/speed/advancedf2l/special.php
Didn't know these existed either.

 

[aronpm]

Learn (some of) 22LL. Fairly easy LL/ZBLL cases.

 

[musicninja17]

i think i'd like to learn all the cases like where the LL edges are oriented and permuted correctly, but you have 3 corners to do... commutators? Is there any special name for that commutator subset?

 

[ottozing]

i think i'd like to learn all the cases like where the LL edges are oriented and permuted correctly, but you have 3 corners to do... commutators? Is there any special name for that commutator subset?

l3c is what your talking about. the algs are in the wiki.

 

[musicninja17]

Thank you ottozing.
Another random thought that's been bothering me for a while.
You know when you get a pll per say and it looks like you have easily recognizeable blocks of color on the ll edges around the top...is there a list out there of easy zbll cases that one should try out first?

 

[ottozing]

Thank you ottozing.
Another random thought that's been bothering me for a while.
You know when you get a pll per say and it looks like you have easily recognizeable blocks of color on the ll edges around the top...is there a list out there of easy zbll cases that one should try out first?

http://sa967st.webs.com/pllskipcases.htm this is pretty much what your looking for. just look for the cases with all the edges oriented.

 

[musicninja17]

http://sa967st.webs.com/pllskipcases.htm this is pretty much what your looking for. just look for the cases with all the edges oriented.

Thank you! you guys are good ^_^.

I seriously didn't know such a thing existed...this is just....amazing...