AUF before or after?

[*LukeMayn*]

well would it be quicker to adjust the U face for PLL before the alg or after??? thanks in advance.

 

[mrbiggs]

I do it before, but I think that responses from good cubers will be more informative than the poll.

 

[bundat]

What I do is:
- if the side I would execute the PLL from is already facing me, use a d/d'/d2 turn to align the U face correctly with the rest of the cube, then do the PLL.
- use a cube rotation if the U face is already aligned correctly with the rest of the cube, but the side I do the PLL from is different than the one facing me, then execute the PLL.
- if neither, use AUF before to adjust the U face to the right side I would execute the PLL from, do the PLL, the AUF again to align the U face with the rest of the cube. Although I only do that because I'm slow at cube rotations. And so that I don't get confused anymore as to what to do (U turn, d turn, cube rotation, etc.)

 

[FU]

I do it after usually, but sometimes I can't help it but do it before (i don't know why don't ask me).

I will execute the PLL algo if its already in the right angle, then think of the AUF while executing the PLL so i wont have any transition time to AUF

 

[Joël]

AUF means Adjust U-layer First. So that is always done before the PLL .

For me it depends on the case really, but for most cases, I don't really look at how the F2L are positioned relative to the PLL... I look at the pattern and solve the PLL indepenently of the F2L, and then adjust. Usually, there's a point 4 or so moves from the end where I can see in which direction I have to turn the U layer.

 

[Kian]

i agree, i think its definitely faster to auf after the pll b/c you not only take a possible cube rotation out the beginning of your pll, you should be able to see the turn or know it based on where it was prior to your pll.

 

[FU]

AUF means Adjust U-layer First. So that is always done before the PLL .

For me it depends on the case really, but for most cases, I don't really look at how the F2L are positioned relative to the PLL... I look at the pattern and solve the PLL indepenently of the F2L, and then adjust. Usually, there's a point 4 or so moves from the end where I can see in which direction I have to turn the U layer.

I've always thought AUF meant Adjust U Face

 

[Johannes91]

AUF means Adjust U-layer First. So that is always done before the PLL .

I've always thought AUF meant Adjust U Face

I think the emoticon means "what I just said makes no sense".

 

[PCwizCube]

AUF means Adjust U-layer First. So that is always done before the PLL .

For me it depends on the case really, but for most cases, I don't really look at how the F2L are positioned relative to the PLL... I look at the pattern and solve the PLL indepenently of the F2L, and then adjust. Usually, there's a point 4 or so moves from the end where I can see in which direction I have to turn the U layer.

I've always thought AUF meant Adjust U Face

Me too - I've also always thought AUF = Adjust U-Face.
That's what it says in Macky's glossary....http://www.cubefreak.net/glossary.html#A

 

[fanwuq]

I usually do it before, but it depends on the situation. After can be faster in some cases, but it doesn't really matter.

 

[ExoCorsair]

Whatever feels more natural.

 

[MistArts]

Always before on G's.

It doesn't matter on the others...

 

[Mike Hughey]

Almost always before because I'm just that bad that I can't recognize the case without the AUF. Just another reason why I'm so bad at speedcubing.

 

[jonny guitar]

75% of the time I do it after; exceptions are when I can't recognize the pll right away I do it before.

 

[Dene]

It depends on the PLL. I can't adjust the U face after certain PLL's (quickly) so I will do it before (A, T, maybe some others). I can't recognise N's without adjusting beforehand. Maybe some others, not too sure.

 

[fanwuq]

You guys are all different from me. T, G, and N are actually the only ones I don't need to AUF to recognize. I AUF this after.

 

[Kenneth]

I miss "depends". In most solves I do COLL and then EPLL and berore EPLL I always do AUF because my algs doesn't change U aligment. But if I get into a PLL after VH (happens 1:27) then I AUF if it is a R or G because I cannot recognise those otherwise (well, not fast), the rest of the PLL's I do not AUF before.

Most ZB's I know I also AUF before to get faster edge recognition. But when I do this I usaly do not know the last U turn of the alg so I have to do anoter AUF in then end

 

[Lucas Garron]

Why does this come up every few months?
I have to "AUF" for ELS and CLS, so I do do it pre-PLL. It's silly to add on moves before and after a PLL...

(Does anyone else think that AUF is silly but AUL sounds too bad to promote?)

 

[Joël]

AUF means Adjust U-layer First. So that is always done before the PLL .

For me it depends on the case really, but for most cases, I don't really look at how the F2L are positioned relative to the PLL... I look at the pattern and solve the PLL indepenently of the F2L, and then adjust. Usually, there's a point 4 or so moves from the end where I can see in which direction I have to turn the U layer.

I've always thought AUF meant Adjust U Face

Me too - I've also always thought AUF = Adjust U-Face.
That's what it says in Macky's glossary....http://www.cubefreak.net/glossary.html#A

Oh, right . Sorry, my mistake!

 

[Sébastien.felix]

Personally, I don't think that AUF requires too many time. I never regrip the cube during LL, it means I AUF 3 times(F2L-OLL,OLL-PLL,after PLL), and I always try to anticipate the more I can so my recognition step is done while UF. Because of my PLL system, i always put the 2 solved corners of a B-type PLL ON THE L side and une it to know what move i should do to AUF after PLL. Though ist awkward for some cases(especially the G-PLLs I use(only RUD)), it's very efficient in general because you don't have to rotate the cube before PLL, what cost a lot of time compared to U or U'.

Have fun

sebastien