Cubing for about 6 months

[Lochran]

Hi

I am been cubing for about 6 months and i am doing Dan Brown Layer by LAyer then i do 2 look oll and pll My time are 39.6 Average and i was thinking to learn friedrich but f2l seems very hard My question is what other method can i use which doesn't involve learning long algs

 

[SixSidedCube]

Roux and Petrus seem to be the most intuitive (that I have heard of), in other words, not TOO many algs. The algs aren't too long either, as I recall. I am experimenting with Roux myself, although I am a CFOP user at heart

 

[Lochran]

thanks can u find a video on youtube which shows roux or petrus

 

[Tiersy]

Hi

I am been cubing for about 6 months and i am doing Dan Brown Layer by LAyer then i do 2 look oll and pll My time are 39.6 Average and i was thinking to learn friedrich but f2l seems very hard My question is what other method can i use which doesn't involve learning long algs

YO Lochran, first off i think that's a pretty good average for 6 months. I was in exactly your position not so long back so i think i am in a good position to help, F2L may seem hard at first but that is because it is new - if you play around with it you will be able to do it, slowly at first and then quicker and quicker as the cases become more familiar.

I am a Petrus solver and proud of it! I would suggest looking into this method because it was what I chose to learn when I was in your position, Lars Petrus (the inventor) has made a really easy to understand website so definitely have a look at that. (lar5.com). This may not be for you though so I would take a look at the Wiki where all the major speedsolving methods are listed and explained too.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any questions, i'm more than happy to help.

 

[SixSidedCube]

thanks can u find a video on youtube which shows roux or petrus

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...affle-s-Roux-Tutorial&highlight=Waffle's+Roux

This link here will take you to the best Roux tutorial you will find, in my opinion, it has a lot of helpful information, and you can save it to your favourites as it has a lot of videos there you can refer to! Take care, and have fun experimenting!

 

[Lochran]

Thanks I am looking at the website now One more question Tiersy what cube do u use and what lube

 

[Tiersy]

I have a dayan guhong II and use silicone spray. It is nice using a proper speedcube but until a month ago i had a rubik's own cube and that was fine, it's far more important to have a good technique than a good cube.

 

[Lochran]

thanks

 

[Lochran]

guys i look at the video showing how to do roux and it doesn't really explain how to do it very well and the petrus site didint have vids so it was kinda hard to learn

 

[Cubenovice]

Fridrich F2L is actually very simple.
You only need to understand the basic three cases and then you can solve all case intuitively

Good tutorials for intuitive F2L:
Badmephisto on youtube
RiDo’s Hunting story on youtube and write up http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...tuition-or-alg-memorization-required.-(Videos)

Understanding these three basic cases is key.
Offcourse you can eventually learn algs for some of the more complex cases.

There are methods that require a minimal amount of algs (or even 0) but these are not really suitable for speed cubing.
Something like this:
F2l – one corner edge pair (build via CFOP, blocks, beginner method or keyhole)
Use the open slot to solve the remaining 5 edges
(advanced sub step: solve two additional corners while solving the edges)
Solve the remaining 5 (or 3) corners via commutators
Requires NO algs at all.

But I guess this is not really what you are after.
You want to get faster, right?

No matter which method you choose; CFOP, Petrus, ZZ, Roux: If it is speed you are after you will have to learn a reasonable amount of algs.
Not really for the F2L or blocks but definitely for finishing the last layer in the fastest way.

 

[Lochran]

YES i do want to solve the last layer as qick as possible I know how to do f2l BUT i average 1 ,mins doing it

 

[SixSidedCube]

Keep practising. It won't happen all at once. You will hear the P word a lot on this forum!

 

[yockee]

Dude, just keep practicing F2L and find ways of solving the pairs faster. It definitely won't all happen right away. It takes time and dedication. There is no easy way out. I spent an entire year learning full Fridrich and mastering it. I started learning it when I averaged around a minute and 10 sec, and now 2 years later, I'm working on being sub 15. I'm still learning new things every once in a while to try to help my times, but am finding out that looking ahead is the biggest thing to worry about. Since I've gotten better at looking ahead, my times dropped from 22 to 16.

 

[Lochran]

thanks for your advice but my friends can solve sub 20 with frierdrich by only learning it for only 2 months

 

[Tiersy]

thanks for your advice but my friends can solve sub 20 with frierdrich by only learning it for only 2 months

Surely ask them for help, if your preferred way of learning is videos than having friends to show you is even better because you can stop them and ask questions.
Bottom line, like pretty much everyone has already said in this thread and indeed on this entire for is Practice

As for the petrus site, ok there are no videos (youtube has tons though) but there are java cubes which are help a whole load.

Good luck dude.

PS: Where are you from?

 

[yockee]

Well, when I learned Fridrich, I used a book. I didn't know of any videos, or you tube cubers. I had Dan Harris's book, and sat there learning every single alg for F2L, OLL and PLL. It took a long time to learn them. Then, I started changing the F2L algs to solve pairs my own way. I'm not really sure how your friends could learn Full Fridrich and become sub 20 in 2 months, unless they don't know full LL. F2L takes a while to master. Feliks is the only one I know that became sub 20 after cubing for 2 months. You can't expect yourself to be able to do the same just because your friends can. Not everyone progresses at the same speed.

 

[Lochran]

yeah thanks guys i have done around 30 solvesand went from 1.20 mins down to 33 seconds

 

[Lochran]

PS: Where are you from?

Australia

 

[Ltsurge]

heh heh
ive been struggling 4 long months on cfop and still avg like 35-40
... argh :fp

 

[aaronb]

I've only been cubing about 6 weeks, but I was also stuck, but at about 35 seconds. I just now am getting consistent sub-35 with some sub-30s mixed in. I learned F2L after 3 weeks and now, 3 weeks later, my times dropped from about a minute-1:20 down to 30-35. So I suggest learning Fridrich F2L, and with a little practice you'd easily be sub-30.