Blindsolving Failure Thread

[RyanReese09]

1:17.76 DNF off by headlights twist. L2 U' R' L B' R' U' F B2 L2 F2 B' L F L R2 D2 L F2 U' R' L2 U R2 D2

WOuld have been pb by 7 seconds.

 

[Rpotts]

T_T Just failed the setdown on a 2flip at the very end of my solve.

Had to do R2 U' and I did U' R2 so I ended up DNF'ing by 4 moves. 2:42 would've been PB by 14 seconds

4 DNFs today.

 

[Zane_C]

Not cubing: 96/100 random digits memorised in 4:05.
I either missed the last four digits, of I completely forgot them. Afterwards, when I looked at the original numbers, I didn't even recognise the images that the last four digits formed.

 

[toastman]

Not cubing: 96/100 random digits memorised in 4:05.
I either missed the last four digits, of I completely forgot them. Afterwards, when I looked at the original numbers, I didn't even recognise the images that the last four digits formed.

Hey Zane. This is off topic, but do you (or anyone else) do playing-card memo? Should have the same "entropy" as 3 scrambled cubes. I'd love to do this some day but am focussing on a few other things right now.

While I'm here, what method do you use to "encode" the numbers (A=1..J=10, or Major System or something else?)

 

[Mike Hughey]

Hey Zane. This is off topic, but do you (or anyone else) do playing-card memo? Should have the same "entropy" as 3 scrambled cubes. I'd love to do this some day but am focussing on a few other things right now.

While I'm here, what method do you use to "encode" the numbers (A=1..J=10, or Major System or something else?)

Several of us have tried it. When I've done it, I just encoded the rank they way you suggested, and then the suit with a second letter (Spade, Heart, Club, Diamond), so it was one image per card. I tried doing some fancier things, but eventually went with this instead and it worked okay. I don't think it's really a very good way to do it, but it was an easy way to try. I was pretty slow, I'm afraid.

 

[Rpotts]

Agh another close DNF would-be PB time. Just closed qqtimer, forgot to get the scramble. It was 2:41.11 off by 2flip UF/UB

At the end I had a 4flip of UF/UB/BL/DB

I did z2 then was going to set up to (M' U')4 and I did U2 R', needing just R', leaving me with 2 flipped edges.

 

[Zane_C]

Hey Zane. This is off topic, but do you (or anyone else) do playing-card memo? Should have the same "entropy" as 3 scrambled cubes. I'd love to do this some day but am focussing on a few other things right now.

While I'm here, what method do you use to "encode" the numbers (A=1..J=10, or Major System or something else?)

I've tried card memorising a few times, I do it how Mike suggests.
For those that use letter pairs for cubing, 1 image per card means it's more like memorising 5 cubes - because you are storing 2 bits of information per card; the number/title and the suit.

 

[Mike Hughey]

I've tried card memorising a few times, I do it how Mike suggests.
For those that use letter pairs for cubing, 1 image per card means it's more like memorising 5 cubes - because you are storing 2 bits of information per card; the number/title and the suit.

Right - it's really quite inefficient. If I were to get serious with it, I would obviously find another method.

 

[RyanReese09]

10/11 in 50:30.48

The 1 cube off was that I did antisune pure corner twist, when I needed to do sune. REVIEWING TAKES SO LONG. UGH. Horrible feeling multi attempt. Everything was slow. This was my last multi practice at home until my May 14th competition.

Edit- The only good thing I can say about this attempt was that my execution was fairly nice, and that I further developed my flipped edges/twisted corners. It's a very very nice system, foolproof, assuming I can recall the image. Need to work on my sune/antisune twist though, haven't thought of what to do with that yet...perhaps the image will spin in place CW or CCW...

 

[MrMoney]

Right - it's really quite inefficient. If I were to get serious with it, I would obviously find another method.

WOW that is inefficient, and unneccecary too! I am more then happy to share my method for deck of cards BLD. I have not looked up on the internet if the method has any name, as I have devised it on my own. It is a simple method where each card is represented by an image.

C = clubs
H = hearts
S = spades
D = diamons

Remember: CHaSeD if you cannot think of the order. Each card will start with the letter of its suit, and will be followed by a consonant representing the numbers 1-10.

The consonants I use:

1: t, d
2: n
3: m
4: r
5: l
6: sj, sh, ch
7: g, k
8: f, v
9: p, b
10: s, z

Club Ace = C..T... And we fill in vocals so it becomes a word. C..T... = Cat
Club 2 = C...N... = Can
Club 3 = Comb
Club 4 = Car
Club 5 = Coal

For hearts we can take:

H 1 = Hat
H 2 = Hen
H 3 = Ham
H 4 = Hare

S 1 = Suit
S 2 = Sun
S 3 = Sam
S 4 = Sara
S 5 = Sail

D 1 = Data
D 2 = Dane
D 3 = Dime
D 4 = Door

You get the idea. Now J, Q & K are abit more tricksy. I Use other images for those.

C Jack = A club
H Jack = A heart
S Jack = A spade
D Jack = A diamond

Now that is easy, isent it? Just remember the suit.

For Q & K I remember couples I know. Q & K of hearts is my wife and me. Q & K of spades is mom and dad etc. You get it.

Hope this helps, all you wacked bld people

 

[aronpm]

You called his method (and mine too) inefficient but it uses 1 card per image just like yours.

I think Ben Pridmore uses 3 cards per image, but I could be mistaken.

 

[MrMoney]

Ben Pridmore uses the Pridmore system, creating an image per two cards = 52 * 52 = 2704 images in total. This method is useable in random digits as well as binary.

My method is ALOT easier to learn and to memo, by far. The efficiency cannot be measured in only number of cards per image, as this number too huge. Only about 4-5 people in the world use 2 card = image methods, the rest just cluster.

 

[aronpm]

Oops, my bad

Also, is it really only 4-5 people? That seems pretty low to me, but maybe it's more difficult than I expect to memorize the images.

 

[MrMoney]

That was the report I heard from the last Memo championship, but more and more are seriously looking into it. The Major system has been dominant thus far, but obviously what Ben is doing is working out pretty nicely ^^

But hey, you guys are doing well too, so maybe that method of yours is not so bad. I was just thinking that my method must be easier for newbs wanting to learn

xoxo Aron. How is your MBLD? Doing any more big attempts?

 

[Mike Hughey]

Ben Pridmore uses the Pridmore system, creating an image per two cards = 52 * 52 = 2704 images in total. This method is useable in random digits as well as binary.

My method is ALOT easier to learn and to memo, by far. The efficiency cannot be measured in only number of cards per image, as this number too huge. Only about 4-5 people in the world use 2 card = image methods, the rest just cluster.

I disagree that it's too huge. It really wasn't hard to come up with my 576 image system; multiplying that by five is really not that much harder. The hard part is coming up with the images; the easy part is memorizing them.

And what do you mean by "clustering"? I'm not familiar with that term. It sounds interesting.

 

[MrMoney]

I would say it is too huge for anyone else but those who actually wish to participate in the world championships. You can easily get to 2-3 minutes with just a "normal" system, no extra effort.

That said, the Pridmore system is EASY Mike Easy in terms of you not having to come up with images, you create them with the material you have! The system is based on Konsonant - Vocal - Konsonant created in this fashion: The suits (16 combinations) give the first consonant. The first rank of the cardpair gives the vocal (13 different vocals) and the last rank gives the last consonant. club/club 4 A = KOT (a place you put shiz in).

Same conscept (but easier) for random digits and binary.

Random digits: 3 digits memoed in one image. First digit (10 combos) gives Consonant, second digit (10) gives vocal, last digit gives last consonant (1000 combinations)

Binary: 10 digits in one image. First 4 binary (16 variants) Con, middle 3 binary (8 variants) voc, last 3 binary (8 variants) last consonant (1024 combinations).

Sorry for typing like this, I am at work and my boss is lurking ^^

I think you guys could learn it without much difficulties. I use it for remembering binary

 

[MrMoney]

And remember, the images for cards just gets recycled and used in everything else too! So you need jus the total of 2704 images

 

[aronpm]

And what do you mean by "clustering"? I'm not familiar with that term. It sounds interesting.

I think it's the term for putting together sounds to make a word.

But hey, you guys are doing well too, so maybe that method of yours is not so bad. I was just thinking that my method must be easier for newbs wanting to learn

xoxo Aron. How is your MBLD? Doing any more big attempts?

I wouldn't say I'm doing well, I haven't done it in a while but my last time was about 8 minutes. Only my third try though.

And I'm still on my break from cubing since my last comp in late January

 

[MrMoney]

It is hard when you push yourself to that extent that you only require the best EVERY TIME bro... In the end you burn the candle at both ends and just get sick of the whole thing. This happends to me all the time as I always wish to be the best in every frikken sport/hobby/interest. Whether it be pro-Counter Strike player, the drums, school or other stuff.

We have to learn to chill about some failures. I am glad you are on a break, but please come back soon, we miss seeing your attempts and results

 

[MrMoney]

I think most of you guys use PVO / PO systems for MBLD, am I right? There you have a strict order of the person doing something to someone.

I do not do that. I use a clustering system in which I place many objects in each location (2-4) and let them interact. I never seem to forget the order as my brain sees the images either on top of eachother, sideways or by size. In that way I have something happening in each location to remember the images. A cube for me can mean 2-max 5 locations on my route.