Waffle's Roux Tutorial

I'm not sure really... I worked those two out myself actually. I was just messing about with sunes and stuff. I recognise them by diagonal same colours on top if you know what I mean. I use:
Diagonal right: Anti sune U' L' U R U' L U R'
Diagonal left stickers: Sune U' R U' L' U R' U' L
I think that the U in the middle is wrong on one of them on your page...
The problem with me is recognition for the L cases... And for some reason, the H cases too although they are only 5 or 4 of them. Your site is very helpful!
 
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Thanks waffle, that really helped. When I watched you and thom doing it, either I couldn't judge the angle, or you were going too fast! I used to lean on the FRD corner. This was easier for M' but for M it does an r'. I need to press harder on the table, looks like.
 
How long does it generally take to learn full CMLL?

I'm trying to learn them at the moment, but the amount of algorithms is... Overwhelming...
I'm thinking one "section" (video) every two days (second day for practice and understand when to execute better), which means I should know full CMLL in just over two weeks' time (though school will probably interrupt here and there)...

[I learned all the T CMLL cases in the last hour. lol]
 
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Phlippieskezer said:
How long does it generally take to learn full CMLL?

I'm trying to learn them at the moment, but the amount of algorithms is... Overwhelming...
I'm thinking one "section" (video) every two days, which means I should know full CMLL in just over two weeks' time (though school will probably interrupt here and there)...

[I learned all the T CMLL cases in the last hour. lol]
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I find learning the algorithms not that hard, Learning the recognition was a bit harder.
 
Cool Frog said:
I find learning the algorithms not that hard, Learning the recognition was a bit harder.
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This is why I put the second day aside, to practice some recognition. (One day - learning the algorithms themselves, next for better recognition)
In between will be normal Roux-solving practice, of course... And perhaps some table abuse practice.
 
Hey Guys,

I learned roux 2 months ago just to have some fun and I find it pretty innovative and cool,I havn't done a lot of solves,only about 100 solves till now because my main method is CFOP,I only do Roux for a change sometimes.

Here is an example solve of How I would go about solving,




B2 F' D' R2 B' D2 B2 F' D U' R F B' D R2 D F' U B' U R B' R F2 L2

Inspection :z2

First Block : U R' D'

r2 M' U' L U2 L' U L U' L'

Second Block : L2 D' L2 U M' U R' U2 R U' R' U R

R U' R' U' R U R' U' R U R'

COLL : U' R' U2 R' D' R U2 R' D R2

LSE : U' M' U M' U M U M'

M2 U M U2 M U' M2 U




I know my Blocks are just too bad,any advice or tip would be appreciated or better ways to get the blocks done.Thanks
 
ilikecubing said:
Hey Guys,

I learned roux 2 months ago just to have some fun and I find it pretty innovative and cool,I havn't done a lot of solves,only about 100 solves till now because my main method is CFOP,I only do Roux for a change sometimes.

Here is an example solve of How I would go about solving,




B2 F' D' R2 B' D2 B2 F' D U' R F B' D R2 D F' U B' U R B' R F2 L2

Inspection :z2

First Block : U R' D'

r2 M' U' L U2 L' U L U' L'

Second Block : L2 D' L2 U M' U R' U2 R U' R' U R

R U' R' U' R U R' U' R U R'

COLL : U' R' U2 R' D' R U2 R' D R2

LSE : U' M' U M' U M U M'

M2 U M U2 M U' M2 U




I know my Blocks are just too bad,any advice or tip would be appreciated or better ways to get the blocks done.Thanks
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I tried the scramble and this is what I did in a speed solve:

Example Solve

z2

First Block: U R' D'

R' U M2 U2 B

Second Block: M' U R' U R' U' R U R'

U M' U2 R' U R

CMLL: U' l' U2 y R U2 R' U2 R' U2 F z' y'

LSE: U2 M' U M'

U M' U2 M U M2

U' M2 U2 M2

Your main problem with your blocks is that you are still doing them as strict F2L algs despite using the M slice to move the pieces around (that's not to say those cases don't come up). On the second part of your first block, you could have done M U' R' U' L U L' and still done it in F2L-esque fashion but with fewer moves. It's all about experimenting to see the different ways to solve blocks.

Don't feel that you have to put the second block's "cross" edge in first either - you can just as well pair up that piece with a corner as a pair (pairs don't have to be the conventional F2L pairs). One way (there are many) that you could finish that block part when you pair it up like that is like this: Example

There are so many ways to do blocks though, so it'd be impossible for me to just say "Do this for this case, this for another, etc." Remember that for the first block you are very free to move any pieces around in any way - use this to your advantage. The M slice is also crucial for connecting pieces for your blocks, something I didn't really understand at first because I was in a full F2L-mindset (and that you could insert completed pairs that need rotations to insert in CFOP by just using r/r' and U moves). Some of the best things you can do are watch/perform example solves, read about Roux on Roux's site/Waffle's site/the forum, and just play around with the cube.

Disclaimer: I'm not claiming to be a Roux expert, just trying to help. Hopefully this did, at least a little bit.
 
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ilikecubing said:
B2 F' D' R2 B' D2 B2 F' D U' R F B' D R2 D F' U B' U R B' R F2 L2

Inspection :z2

First Block : U R' D'

r2 M' U' L U2 L' U L U' L'

Second Block : L2 D' L2 U M' U R' U2 R U' R' U R

R U' R' U' R U R' U' R U R'

COLL : U' R' U2 R' D' R U2 R' D R2

LSE : U' M' U M' U M U M'

M2 U M U2 M U' M2 U
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B2 F' D' R2 B' D2 B2 F' D U' R F B' D R2 D F' U B' U R B' R F2 L2
Left: D U B U' F r' F
Right:U' R r U r U R U2 R2U M2 U2 R' U R
CMLL:R'U' R U' R' U2 R
LSE: U' M U' M' R' U R U M U2 M' U R' U' R
rawr Can someone check for me please? (computer cannot run lucas garron place)
 
Could someone please suggest to me a rotationless algorithm for the all-oriented, but incorrectly permuted CMLL case where each corner is opposite? I don't really like the one in the video (sorry).

(Currently I use my normal Y-perm, but I'm confident there's a better algorithm out there specifically for Roux...)
 
Phlippieskezer said:
Could someone please suggest to me a rotationless algorithm for the all-oriented, but incorrectly permuted CMLL case where each corner is opposite? I don't really like the one in the video (sorry).

(Currently I use my normal Y-perm, but I'm confident there's a better algorithm out there specifically for Roux...)
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:O

R' F R U2 r U' r' U2 F' U2 r U R'

Found it myself, love it to bits (very nice for 2x2 me thinks).
 
miniGOINGS said:
:O

R' F R U2 r U' r' U2 F' U2 r U R'

Found it myself, love it to bits (very nice for 2x2 me thinks).
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How fast can you average with that alg? I'm having trouble getting sub-3. :(

Athefre said:
Mine is: RBU2B'UR'FR'F'R2UR'
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I suck at B-turns, so I probably wouldn't use that.

spdcbr said:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/53712024/Waffle-s-CMLL-Algorithms

I made a document with the CMLL Algorithms, credits to: http://sites.google.com/site/schweitzerpatrick/home
It's incredibly waffle-fied.
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Is there a more... Printer friendly one? I'm on the move a lot, and I'm learning my CMLL's, so having a hardcopy of them should help. Otherwise, awesome! I really wanted one of these...
 
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