Viscosity of Lubix Found! Cheaper Alternative!

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ElectricDoodie said:
Alright, I got the 50kwt Diff Shock Oil I ordered.

I applied the same way as in the video from Lubix.
And it feels... sluggish. Not too bad, but not fast. I think my drops were too big on the core. I'll leave it like this for a few more days, but if it doesn't get better, I'll redo it.

I was using regular silicone based lubricant before, and it would feel very fast, instantly. The static friction was higher, but the dynamic friction was lower. Now, I feel like it's reversed (Here's an explanation of that, for those who would like to know more: http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Lubrication). Like I said, it's not too bad, but it doesn't feel as fast as it was before, during the actual turns. It's nothing like glue, as it still feels lubed, but just not fast or amazing.

It has made my A5 quieter, though.

Soon, I'll be ordering an Ultimate GuHong, and a Lubix Syringe, so I'll be able to have a real comparison.
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you put WAY to much, put less, use a paper clip and dip it into the diff oil and rub a little on the contact points, it should become very good.
PUT VERY LITTLE because if you don't have enough, you could just add some while if you put to much, you have to redo it.


Also, Hi Sam! (this has nothing to do with the post)
 
satellitedanny said:
you put WAY to much, put less, use a paper clip and dip it into the diff oil and rub a little on the contact points, it should become very good.
PUT VERY LITTLE because if you don't have enough, you could just add some while if you put to much, you have to redo it.
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Ah, that trick with the paper clip is a good idea. I know I don't have too much on the cubies themselves, but the contact point is where I couldn't really control how much went in there. Especially without the syringe that Lubix gives.

By doing that paper clip trick, it'll be much easier to control how much goes on there.
Thanks for that.
 
ElectricDoodie said:
Ah, that trick with the paper clip is a good idea. I know I don't have too much on the cubies themselves, but the contact point is where I couldn't really control how much went in there. Especially without the syringe that Lubix gives.
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What did your oil come in? Mine came in a plastic flexible tube (think travel-sized toothpaste) with a narrow nozzle that I had to use a hatpin to puncture. It works as a great applicator.
 
clemon79 said:
What did your oil come in? Mine came in a plastic flexible tube (think travel-sized toothpaste) with a narrow nozzle that I had to use a hatpin to puncture. It works as a great applicator.
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how much did it cost
its 12 bucks here but its only the size of a white-out bottle and 10000 weight
 
EnterPseudonym said:
Right, not comparing it to lubix in a thread dedicated to lubix "alternatives". Never change Speedsolving.
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"Alternatives" does not imply "comparison," it simply implies that this item is also a silicone lubricant that just might work if you want something cheaper. You don't have to know how Lubix feels to suggest an alternative silicone lubricant.

It seems to me like you are just trying to make an example out of people. You aren't doing a very good job of it. Never change "people with nothing constructive to add to the conversation."
 
fireb0x said:
"Alternatives" does not imply "comparison," it simply implies that this item is also a silicone lubricant that just might work if you want something cheaper. You don't have to know how Lubix feels to suggest an alternative silicone lubricant.

It seems to me like you are just trying to make an example out of people. You aren't doing a very good job of it. Never change "people with nothing constructive to add to the conversation."
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I am, these people will take this "alternative" to lubix and claim it is the same, when it simply isn't. "Never change "people with nothing constructive to add to the conversation.""
 
EnterPseudonym said:
I am, these people will take this "alternative" to lubix and claim it is the same, when it simply isn't. "Never change "people with nothing constructive to add to the conversation.""
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I didn't see anyone claim it is the same as lubix. I saw alot of people say "I've never used lubix, but this feels nice" or "I've never used lubix, but I think I overlubed."

Even then, who truly knows unless they have used both whether they are the same or not. They very well could or could not be.

You are just as guilty of automatically disqualifying this as "not the same" as they would be if they assumed it WAS the same/very similar. The only difference here is that "they" have not yet assumed or implied it is the same, but YOU have assumed/implied that it is not the same.

You are just as guilty of assuming, just in the opposite way. How do you know it isn't the same if you haven't used both? You don't. People come here looking for an alternative and maybe they will get a comparison maybe they won't. Clearly the thread was not started with the intent to compare. The OP has not compared and if people after him decide to, then what is so wrong with that? Is it such a terrible thing that people try and guide others and let them know how they compare? Is it such a terrible thing that people who HAVE used both post their thoughts?

It's not that serious that people need to get laughed at and criticized for their thoughts/feelings. If you haven't used this "alternative" or you are not looking into the alternative, then clearly this thread doesn't really have anything to do with you other than the fact that you barged in accusing people being misleading. It was a nice friendly, informative, speculative thread before you started laughing at people and accusing others of misinformation or purposefully misleading.

Ultimately, people make their own decisions. If they decide to buy 50k diff oil instead of lubix just because JoeBlow on PuzzleThingies.com said so, then let them. That is their choice and if it backfires, it is also their issue.

Instead of laughing and criticizing, just say "I can't imagine that this stuff is the same as Lubix, but I haven't tried it so I am not 100% sure." That way you are contributing your thought and others can make of it what they think.

We're talking about a $5 bottle of lubricant for a $12 plastic cube. These arent $40 dollar oils for $15,000 vehicles. It's not that serious, stop making it more than it should be.
 
I believe the only claim I have made is that 50,000 wt. diff oil makes my cube plenty fast enough for my purposes, at roughly six percent of the price of the cheapest-per-cc quantity of Lubix. So unless it can be proven conclusively that Lubix is 1500% better than 50,000 wt. diff oil, I'm not going to worry about what some jagoff troll thinks. ;)
 
Finding another lube isn't the purpose of this thread. Obviously people use more than one thing as lube in their puzzles. I was the only one who actually found an alternative to lubix (its actually just the same thing as lubix), but everyone seemed to ignore my findings. Its all good and dandy that other lube options exist, but that isn't the purpose of this thread.
 
fireb0x said:
Ultimately, people make their own decisions. If they decide to buy 50k diff oil instead of lubix just because JoeBlow on PuzzleThingies.com said so, then let them. That is their choice and if it backfires, it is also their issue.

We're talking about a $5 bottle of lubricant for a $12 plastic cube. These arent $40 dollar oils for $15,000 vehicles. It's not that serious, stop making it more than it should be.
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These are the only two sentences in your whole argument that happen to have assumptions, and therefore are the only correct statements.You really shouldn't claim so much about something you don't know.
 
endless_akatsuki said:
I think you're pulling crap out of your ass. I would advise you to stop and read Dan's review.

I'd rather buy that than Lubix.
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Fine, I'll rebut his assumptions.

@Firebox

1. If you think that no one has claimed that these are the same as lubix, I suggest you read the first post of the thread.

2. I specifically know the viscosity of Lubix, and I do not need to try these alternatives to know they are not lubix.

3. Again I know the exact viscosity, and none of these are of that viscosity

4. First off, this statement and the previous one conflict with each other. If people don't assume or imply that it is the same then why would people come here looking for an alternative? Second, "The only difference here is that "they" have not yet assumed or implied it is the same", "Is it such a terrible thing that people try and guide others and let them know how they compare?"

5. Here you assume that I have not used an alternative, and that goes to show just how naive you are. How exactly "nice, and friendly" is this thread to Donovan's business?

7. Again you make the assumption that I don't know the viscosity and that I have not used an alternative, all without ever asking.
 
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