PLLs Thread

[JasonK]

Alg: R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'

1.61, 1.72, 1.68, 1.67, 1.59, (1.82), 1.72, 1.60, 1.58, (1.57), 1.71, 1.69 = 1.66

Haven't really timed PLLs before, I'm gonna follow this thread.

 

[Pyjam]

T-Perm: [R U R' U'] [R' F] [R2 U' R'] U' [R U R' F']

The tumb move on the last F' slows me a lot

So, use your left index, not your right thumb. With training, it's really better.

 

[Nos7portuga]

So, use your left index, not your right thumb. With training, it's really better.

C'mom guys, share your opinion. Right thumb or left index on the last F'

 

[MagicYio]

C'mom guys, share your opinion. Right tumb or left index on the last F'

You can do a l' instead of the last R', so the F' becomes a U' and it positions your left index better.

 

[Pyjam]

You can do a l' instead of the last R', so the F' becomes a U' and it positions your left index better.

But U becomes B. I would not like to adjust the upper layer after that.

 

[collinbxyz]

You can do a l' instead of the last R', so the F' becomes a U' and it positions your left index better.

That's what I do with the Y perm

 

[collinbxyz]

C'mom guys, share your opinion. Right tumb or left index on the last F'

Thumb

 

[EricReese]

Thumb is superior

 

[Selkie]

C'mom guys, share your opinion. Right tumb or left index on the last F'

Indeed a question I have nearly posted on a couple of occasions. I started with thumb but found my thumb was always too far back. I now do with (l' U') however I am still not convinced. It seems to lead to a big dip in TPS, especially when the RUR'F' comes in the middle of an alg.

Also like to say great thread. Will be averaging and posting my pittiful T-perm times this evening

 

[amostay2004]

Indeed a question I have nearly posted on a couple of occasions. I started with thumb but found my thumb was always too far back. I now do with (l' U') however I am still not convinced. It seems to lead to a big dip in TPS, especially when the RUR'F' comes in the middle of an alg.

Cornelius Dieckmann does the F' with left index and can do the J perm in 0.6x. Most people use the thumb though, but I bet using the left index can be just as fast.

 

[Selkie]

Cornelius Dieckmann does the F' with left index and can do the J perm in 0.6x. Most people use the thumb though, but I bet using the left index can be just as fast.

Ahh thanks, it is good to know. I guess I just want to make sure I am optimising as best I can. There is always that nagging thought that starting speed solving in my 40s I have to look at everything that speeds my solving times to counter what is bound to be lower TPS. Thats the reason I did all OLLs early.

I had wondered whether the thumb just felt wrong or misaligned after the RUR' due to early rheumatism or worse still early rigamortis :rolleyes:

I had started optimising a PLL per day but have only done a G-perm and a U-perm so far. Today looks like its decided for me - T-perm.

{Apologies for the hijacking}

 

[ElectricDoodie]

C'mom guys, share your opinion. Right thumb or left index on the last F'

Thumb all the way, for me.
It's always in the perfect position, and just flows right into it.

 

[Pyjam]

C'mom guys, share your opinion. Right thumb or left index on the last F'

I believed that what your hands prefer was the only thing that did matter.

 

[RyanReese09]

Left index.

 

[eastamazonantidote]

C'mom guys, share your opinion. Right thumb or left index on the last F'

I used to use thumb. It was fine. It looked good. It was fast. I was happy.

Then I started practicing F and F' turns so I could leave all the fingers of the other hand where they were and still execute. It is now clear to me that F' is faster. The thumb requires an extra motion - you are pulling the R' down but then have to flick up. Also, AUF is much easier when both hands are prepared to do some flicking. You may think thumb is better. But practice those F' moves and you'll find it isn't true.

 

[collinbxyz]

instead of either, you can Do l' U' although that's just T-Perm. You can similar things for other algs though

 

[Kirjava]

best time: 0.91
best avg5: 0.93 (σ = 0.01)
best avg12: 0.96 (σ = 0.01)
best avg100: 1.01 (σ = 0.08)

 

[EricReese]

Cmon Thom, sub1 that ****

 

[Nos7portuga]

What is the PLL for time this week?

Need help to organize last week times?

 

[MagicYio]

I hope it's going to be the H-perm