Sexuality

[Stefan]

Who else believes the man in black is simply a troll?

I was just about to say I'm 99% sure he is one.

 

[StachuK1992]

I'm not sure if he's a troll; it's hard to tell.
I think he's just a dumbass, personally.

Apparently he's old enough to drive. I was hoping he was 12, and just some unlearned youngin'.

 

[hatter]

Many, many, MANY different species have been documented to having gay sex. It's natural. And if sex is only for reproduction, explain the clitoris.

 

[Ordos_Koala]

Im against "Gay" people. I don't know why it's just a natural feeling. I hate everything they do.

And no I am not a Jesus lover. I just feel that they have a mental disability from previous childhood experiences. I do not think they are born with the mind to think they are attracted to oppisite sex, I think it has to with growing up in certain conditions that make the child think the way they do. There is no gay gene, its in their brain that they think they are gay. they are making fools of themselves running around in girlish clothes and hitting on their own sex. I am not trying to be rude I just don't understand the evolutionary aspect and mental aspect

I think if signs of homosexualty is detected in a child he/she should get medical help to find what is troubling the person. (If there are gay cubers in this room i will of course get flamed with response like "We were born like this"

Also if they are there own "Race" i find it disgusting to go into a changing room in P.E and having all the gays stare at me like its some kind of a porn fest. Uhh.

If you truly believe gay people are born with their disease they should have their own rooms to change in.

Once again i am not trying to offend gay people, i just find it disgusting and pointless to do what they do.

If i have offended any members of the gay community this post will be removed.

First of all, it is not a disease. Second, even some animals are homosexuals, so you thing that its parents bit it and that's the problem or what? And what do you have against them? So they just don't have sex with women but they have with other men instead... I'm not gay, but your opinion just seems stupid to me as it's close to discrimination.

 

[Sa967St]

I'm not sure if he's a troll; it's hard to tell.
I think he's just a dumbass, personally.

Look at the bottom of this post http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...graduates-quot&p=533209&viewfull=1#post533209

 

[James Ludlow]

Look at the bottom of this post http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...graduates-quot&p=533209&viewfull=1#post533209

Just ban him again.

 

[StachuK1992]

God: I quit trying to help you.

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

I read something relevant in NewScientist once. While most people think that only straight behaviour is natural, the animal kingdom as a whole begs to differ, with many behaviours which seem strange to us. I'm fairly certain there was even a given reason for homosexual behaviour (seen surprisingly frequently in nature for something usually deemed unnatural, which is ironic), though I can't remember what it was. Don't think you can read the full article without signing in to the site though.

Personally, I'm straight. I'm >99% sure this isn't due to fitting in the social norms (I'm not that sort of person, I don't even have Facebook!), that is just how I am. I cannot personally understand being sexually attracted to another male, but I have no problem at all with others who have different preferences to myself.

Although to sort of second a previous statement, Gok Wan creeps me out.

 

[James Ludlow]

Although to sort of second a previous statement, Gok Wan creeps me out.

Its not because of his sexual preferences though lol.
He just happened to be on the gogglebox when I was reading this thread lol.

 

[Quadrescence]

People, let's not start calling people trolls just because they are defending their point, logically or not. It's a terrible reason to derail a conversation.

Hello stefan, What I am talking about is that they may have been raised in situations that made them believe what they do. therefore it is a mental defect.

Talking about "mental defects" is a difficult matter biologically. There is a very fine meaning to what is "normal" and what is "not normal". Is it a defect that I do not have a tail, whereas my evolutionary ancestors did? Or... is it just evolution?

I am not purporting that being homosexual is a result of evolution. I am saying, however, that what you perceive as a "mental defect" could just stem from a different lineage of genes. Personally, I'd consider it a "defect" if it was debilitating. Being gay is in no way a debilitating condition. Being straight is in no way a debilitating condition.

Gay people just tell people they were born this way, i just don't believe it.

That's fine if you don't believe it. But it would be nice if you backed up your conclusions with evidence. If it's just "gut feeling", then I would classify you more as a bigot than a rational thinker.

And sex is for reproduction and only for that.

Have you ever eaten food, not because you felt hungry, but because the food just tastes good? I definitely have.

Or have you eaten candy? Food is for nourishment, not for pleasure. If you eat candy, drink soda, eat unhealthy foods at your choice, I will classify you as a hypocrite.

Sex is healthy. It is a form of cardiovascular exercise. It is also rewarding, as a result of dopamine levels increasing. I'll be damned if humanity stops having sex for pleasure and only does so for reproduction.

what is the point of having sex with the same sex, what does it achieve "Pleasure" but what else, a stinky brown dick!

As I said previously, it is good for the body and mind. It is exercise. It does approximately the same things as running does. Why do people run?

As for "stinky brown dick", I am sure you're referring to the fact that some gay people have anal sex. First of all, only some people do this. There are other things (e.g., oral sex, mutual masturbation). But let's focus on the anal sex. You are implying that anal sex will cause the one penetrating to get fecal matter on their dick. This can be a possibility, if fecal matter is in the receiver's rectum. However. Feces are stored there only when they are to be defecated. I don't know about you, but I personally don't like having to feel like taking a dump all the time, and cure this feeling by actually doing so appropriately.

Feces are not created in the rectum. They are created along the small intestine then removed of much water content in the large intestine. They may be in the large intestine for a while. As such, if one has defecated and one's stool is healthy, there will be no visual trace of feces in the rectum. Similarly, if a woman cleans her vagina every so often, it won't be mucked up with thick mucous generated during the month. And let's not get started about having sex with a female, and coming out with a "stinky red dick".

and nothing else. gay people most likely need help.

Help with what? Becoming straight? Does being gay hurt them in any way? And how do you propose they get help? Get "heterosexual therapy" and force their brains to release chemicals when they see and think about women instead of men? Changing a gay person to become straight, to me, is like changing a tomato-lover's reaction to tomatoes to something pungent and terrible. See Stanley Kubrick's film "A Clockwork Orange" for a sort of satire on this kind of thing.

Is being gay hurting anyone else in any way? I know no one is hurting me at all. And I know they can benefit from their sexuality too.

So are you just making something into a problem artificially?

 

[Ordos_Koala]

Help with what? Becoming straight? Does being gay hurt them in any way? And how do you propose they get help? Get "heterosexual therapy" and force their brains to release chemicals when they see and think about women instead of men?y?

I heard some decades ago that was happening (before that they were mostly killed)

 

[TheManInBlack]

My post will be removed as a lot of people were offended, I understand that I did not support my statement and I don't want to seem like a troll. This thread in itself doesn't belong on this forum and belongs in another forum where such things can be discussed in further detail. I also will note that I do not necessarily hate gay people so if you are gay and you cube I do not hate you. Although my previous statement seems to be that i hate your race but I don't. People are entitled to their beliefs. But as stated before, this topic is not good for the forum because people will judge each other for whatever their reason is. And once again i apologize to all offended.

"a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off -topic messages in an online community"

Before you call me a troll understand its meaning.

 

[Kirjava]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Scale

Looks like it does take change into consideration. Also looks like it measures actual history, how would that be invalid?

Ah, you're right. I didn't actually read up on it before posting. However, do you really think sexuality can be measured correctly? I don't think you can really rate how much you like a certain gender compared to the other, only how much you like specific people.

Not sure "sexuality" is what you're talking about, at least what Dictionary.com and Wikipedia have sounds different and surely exists.

Yeah. What I really should've said is that sexuality as a concept is artificial. It doesn't have to exist.

Also, Kir, you should take Human Sexual Behavior in college.
Really good class.

How old do you think I am?

And kirjava, I mostly agree with you. However, gender =/= sexuality. I also believe gender is a spectrum and not black and white (similar to how you believe sexuality is).

XY/XX/etc is pretty clear cut. You're thinking of gender identity.

I do not think they are born with the mind to think they are attracted to oppisite sex, I think it has to with growing up in certain conditions that make the child think the way they do.

Actually, I agree with you. However, you seem to think this is a bad thing for some reason?

Why does it make a difference if sexuality is chosen or not? I don't need an excuse for who I am.

they are making fools of themselves running around in girlish clothes and hitting on their own sex.

sexy fools :3

If you truly believe gay people are born with their disease they should have their own rooms to change in.

Nah, the people who have a problem with it should go get changed in the room for homophobes.

My post will be removed as a lot of people were offended, I understand that I did not support my statement and I don't want to seem like a troll. This thread in itself doesn't belong on this forum and belongs in another forum where such things can be discussed in further detail. I also will note that I do not necessarily hate gay people so if you are gay and you cube I do not hate you. Although my previous statement seems to be that i hate your race but I don't. People are entitled to their beliefs. But as stated before, this topic is not good for the forum because people will judge each other for whatever their reason is. And once again i apologize to all offended.

You say that this topic is bad for the forum because people will judge others. You're the only one judging.

This isn't about morality of certain sexualities. You've hijacked my thread to spread ignorance.

 

[flan]

Look at the bottom of this post http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...graduates-quot&p=533209&viewfull=1#post533209

He edited it. What did it say?

 

[Ordos_Koala]

He edited it. What did it say?

he signed at the end as "TheRubiksGod"

 

[qqwref]

Sexuality "exists" but it's certainly not as simple and linear as most people seem to believe. I think there are even a lot of people out there who think you can either be "straight" or "gay" but not both/neither/between. From personal experience there seem to be two separate continuums, from "not interested" to "incredibly attracted" for each gender.

But preference is a weird thing. People care a lot about which gender you're attracted to, but there's a ton of variation within each one (thin, fat, muscular, androgynous, very masculine/feminine, etc.) which causes just as many complications. In addition, I think it's actually possible to train yourself to be attracted to something, consciously or accidentally, in the same way you could train yourself to enjoy the taste of a food you previously found unpleasant. There's a lot going on in human sexuality, and it's a really interesting subject to study in depth.

If it is a choice, why are gay teens 30 to 40% more likely to commit suicide?

I don't mean to undermine your point, but I think most people would say being goth is a choice, and the rate of attempted suicide is a lot higher in that subculture.

Did you know that when a woman is pregnant with a boy, her body sort of "attacks" it by releasing a chemical (maybe more estrogen? I'm on my phone so I don't want to look it up right now).

Are you referring to androgens?

 

[uberCuber]

although this is a serious topic, I couldn't help but lol at some of the posts in this thread..

I have always been completely neutral as far as this issue goes. I have never judged someone for their sexuality in any way, and I think that's how it should be.

 

[DavidWoner]

A note on non-reproductive sexual activity-

So far I've only seen people make arguments based on the idea that since we do many other things for pleasure, sex for pleasure should be just as acceptable. I agree with this, but I think it's insufficient justification in a lot of cases (Maybe not insufficient, but not even close to the strongest point that could be made). When sexual activity is used as an expression of love, it can have an enormous emotional impact and greatly strengthen the bond between two people. The hormones released during and after intercourse actually chemically attach the mates to one another. So not only is the relationship strengthened by the learned social behaviors that accompany sex, but there is an actual biological change bonding two people that cannot be achieved through other means.

It seems opponents of non-reproductive sex try to associate it with care-free, multi-partner, hedonism but in many cases this is not even remotely close to the truth.

Relating to Thom's OP: When sex as used not as a tool for satisfying lust, but as a means of strengthening bonds with whomever you love, then the lines of sexuality become very blurred. In my opinion, sexuality is nothing more than a statistical measure of which gender you have a greater preference for forming sexual bonds with.

 

[Escher]

My post will be removed as a lot of people were offended, I understand that I did not support my statement and I don't want to seem like a troll. This thread in itself doesn't belong on this forum and belongs in another forum where such things can be discussed in further detail. I also will note that I do not necessarily hate gay people so if you are gay and you cube I do not hate you. Although my previous statement seems to be that i hate your race but I don't. People are entitled to their beliefs. But as stated before, this topic is not good for the forum because people will judge each other for whatever their reason is. And once again i apologize to all offended.

"a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off -topic messages in an online community"

Before you call me a troll understand its meaning.

"a troll is someone who posts inflammatory etc"
...
"if you are gay and you cube I do not hate you"
"my previous statement seems to be that i hate your race but I don't"

Implying being gay makes you a member of a 'race' of people seems inflammatory to me, especially when in earlier posts you seem to believe that they're evolutionary a dead end. What is a sub-race but something you consider evolutionarily inferior? I don't think it's hard to see where your thinking leads you, regardless of how much you protest.

Just take a look throughout history as to what happens when society decides to create a class of people and describe them as biologically different and lesser and you'll see why we assume you must be a troll.


Anyway,
I had a good convo with OP about this quite a while ago... The concept of a few, secure classes of sexuality is a modern myth and they make little sense. In reality if people are to be grouped together by their sexual choices and thoughts then the situation is much more complex and is not adequately described by 'if you had one x experience while you were y then you must be bi'. If you look throughout history at peoples attitudes to sexual behaviour it's not hard to find thousands of instances across cultures of everybody getting with everybody. Just look at the Renaissance period art to see how much the culture appreciated both the male and female form...

Personally, I'm far too lazy to try and decide 'what I am'.

 

[Kian]

http://www.ehow.com/how_2000106_become-pseudo-intellectual.html