Revamped OLL section in alg database

[danthecuber]

I was very bored today and I was looking in the alg database at the OLLs, and there were only 22 out of the 57 cases there, and only 5 to 10 algs for each case that was there. So, having a lot of time on my hands, I copied every alg from the wiki OLL page and the BOCA alg database. Enjoy the revamped OLL section!
*cough* PLL next? *cough*

 

[AvGalen]

Really, there were only 22 of th 57 cases there? If so, that was a MASSIVE update!

"and now the OLL section is a shadow of its former self" means that the new version is worse than the old version though (shadow is less good than original)

 

[Ranzha]

I don't think that having a page with a thousand ways to solve a double headlights case is necessary. >_<

 

[danthecuber]

I don't think that having a page with a thousand ways to solve a double headlights case is necessary. >_<

I know, but if you check any of the bottom 50 OLLs (cross not oriented) there are a lot less algs for each case. The 7 ones with the cross oriented just happened to have an exponentially greater number of algs. And it gives people more of a choice when choosing algs for their own solves.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Whether it is necessary or not: kudos on doing all that work. I'll be honest in that I just go to the wiki page for OLL/PLL to grab the algs, but if we can make the use of the Algorithm Database the place to go, that would be awesome. There was a thread awhile back on cleaning up the OLL/PLL pages (too many algs per case), and I suppose this is one way we could do that. Either way, again, kudos for all that work.

 

[danthecuber]

Whether it is necessary or not: kudos on doing all that work. I'll be honest in that I just go to the wiki page for OLL/PLL to grab the algs, but if we can make the use of the Algorithm Database the place to go, that would be awesome. There was a thread awhile back on cleaning up the OLL/PLL pages (too many algs per case), and I suppose this is one way we could do that. Either way, again, kudos for all that work.

Thanks. Also, its important to point out that the alg database actually checks whether the alg is correct before it gets entered. The wiki, on the other hand, does not get check, so an incorrect alg can sneak in every so often. Take for example, U2 R L' U' L U R' U' L' U L U2 r U R' U' L' U R U'from the wiki PLL page. The wiki says its an E-Perm, from looking at the animation, you can tell that it needs an extra rotation to be a real E-Perm. Also, algs uploaded into the database stay there forever, they can never get removed. So, because of those two reasons, I think it's better if we move all of the algs from the wiki to the alg database, in the long term. Maybe we could even steal some algs from BOCA just to add some more algs. There are A LOT of algs there. So, just some food for thought

 

[MichaelP.]

You never know when you'll need a 29 move headlights algorithm.

 

[danthecuber]

You never know when you'll need a 29 move headlights algorithm.

Well, it's an Algorithm Database, not a predictor of what algoritm you're going to use/need. I believe you're able to make that decision for yourself.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Michael makes a strong point...

 

[danthecuber]

Michael makes a strong point...

Yeah, but btw did you notice that #22 and #37 are the same cases?
edit: #27 and #60 also! and also #21 and #40!
can a mod plz fix this, because it looks like the algs are correct, but the corresponding case is not. There are 57 in total, so if those pictures are fixed, then all of the cases will all be there.

 

[Anthony]

Wait, so you spent time adding the countless number of algs like L2 U L' R2 U' R2 U L U L2 U L2 U R2 U' R2 U' R2 U2 L2 R2 U' L2 U' L2 U' R2 U R2.

Seriously?
That's insane. Literally insane considering those are utterly useless.

 

[danthecuber]

Wait, so you spent time adding the countless number of algs like L2 U L' R2 U' R2 U L U L2 U L2 U R2 U' R2 U' R2 U2 L2 R2 U' L2 U' L2 U' R2 U R2.

Seriously?
That's insane. Literally insane considering those are utterly useless.

I spent time, but not that much. I could copy and paste 30 algs at a time, so I could do 180 algs a minute if I was working fast.
Anyway, no one can change it now, because any upload to the algorithm database is set in stone, unlike for the rest of wiki. (yes the database is part of the wiki)

 

[Pyjam]

Enjoy the revamped OLL section!

I added an alg for the case #45 (Mickey's head) recently : y2 (R' F R F') U2 (R' F R F') (U F' U F)
It isn't in the revamped OLL page yet.

 

[danthecuber]

I added an alg for the case #45 (Mickey's head) recently : y2 (R' F R F') U2 (R' F R F') (U F' U F)
It isn't in the revamped OLL page yet.

I added it, but all of the old algs should still be there regardless of what I do to the database. It isn't editable. Are you sure you added it?

 

[Pyjam]

I added it in the OLL Wiki page a couple of days ago, not in the revamped one, as you just did it.

 

[danthecuber]

I added it in the OLL Wiki page a couple of days ago, not in the revamped one, as you just did it.

No, the Algorithm database and the wiki are too separate things. The one I updated is the algorithm database. The most important difference is that the algs in the wiki are not verified to be correct and can be edited, whilst the Database algs are verified and can't be edited or removed. Since you put the alg in only the wiki, it won't automatically be in the algorithm database, you have to add it to there manually.

I would like to inform everyone that the PLL section is now also revamped! I used the same resources as I did for the OLL section. While every case was covered before I added any algs, there were only 3 to 5 for each case. With these new algs, every case has double, even sometimes triple or quadruple, the amount of algs that were there before. Enjoy!

I strongly reccommend using the database instead of the wiki to look for algs as every alg is verified to be correct in the database, whereas the wiki does not verify its algs

 

[AvGalen]

Less is more

 

[danthecuber]

Less is more

I realize this, but what if there were no algs for a particular case (like there were for most of the olls), would less still be more?

 

[JustinJ]

I realize this, but I think the database is more useful, if it has more algs.
What if there were no algs for a particular case (like there were for most of the olls), would less still be more?

Are you serious? Like, actually?

 

[Cyrus C.]

If there are going to be that many algorithms should we implement a voting system similar to BOCA's?

A lot of the algs are just the same with different rotations. I counted 9 variants of the same Headlights algorithm that were just different executions without scrolling at all.